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second pair and villain donks 1bb

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mjez1
Joined: 29.06.2015

Hi, I have this hand and as played I'm fine with it. But my question is what I should do if the villain doesn't donk there? I have a second pair and I don't think I can get a value from worse hands. But if I check the flop I will be guessing on the turn as well. I put the range, I assume he had, into Equilab and my equity was 37% which is not bad I think but I would either be crushed or probably don't get any additional value. How would you proceed with this hand? Do you bet small OTF with your entire range?


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Torcato
Joined: 17.02.2010

Hello,

Those 1bb bets are always so funny :f_ugly:
Pf you can cold call as well but I like the 3bet line.
Flop I'd play the same, if villain did not do that 1bb crap I'd xbh. We have showdown value and we don't want to get x/r there.
Turn I think your bet is extremely big, you got a very good card and you should bet for value there but not with a size that automatically will put the villain away. You put the villain on a tighter range than actually is, he's playing 75/25 so I believe that he'll have much more pocket pairs on his range for example, maybe all of them, and you want those hands to continue. Hands like 66-TT. I'd bet half pot max.

Cheers!


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

They are funny!
He has bet 1BB into 18.
So far it is players trying to "test the water" with a tiny bet.
I've seen players do it with the nuts, and also with air.

Why not see how much he likes his hand?
Raise him with 4 or 5 BB -- that is still only 1/3 the original pot OTF

If he jams, you can let go if you choose.

One piece of advice I heard from a streamer:

Treat a 1BB bet the same as you would treat a check

Cheers,
VS


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Seems like a good spot to go for a check back if villain doesn't donk.


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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

I would raise OTF with any made hand.
Agree with Reds, check back flop when he checks to you.


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biel1996
Joined: 09.12.2015

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
One piece of advice I heard from a streamer:

Treat a 1BB bet the same as you would treat a check

That's normally how I treat these bets, but i'm not a streamer... nor wise :coolface:
From my experience, the donker often folds to a raise. Just c-bet considering pot has 1bb more or check back (by calling 1bb).

I usually interpret the min-bets on flop as villain is trying to somehow block a c-bet, inducing us to only call... who knows, right

Considering you have 2nd pair, I'd also check back OTF


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mjez1
Joined: 29.06.2015

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
One piece of advice I heard from a streamer:

Treat a 1BB bet the same as you would treat a check

Yes, I heard the same thing.


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mjez1
Joined: 29.06.2015

Originally posted by Torcato
You put the villain on a tighter range than actually is, he's playing 75/25 so I believe that he'll have much more pocket pairs on his range for example, maybe all of them, and you want those hands to continue. Hands like 66-TT. I'd bet half pot max.

Oh, yeah you're right, very good point. Thanks!


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mjez1
Joined: 29.06.2015

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
So far it is players trying to "test the water" with a tiny bet.
I've seen players do it with the nuts, and also with air.

Yes, I've seen the same thing. When they donk with 1 bb and have nuts, then they usually raise shove the raise or open shove the turn.


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