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Casey55
Joined: 19.07.2010

Villains first hand at the table have no data on him .

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 8 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

UTG: $1.38 (69 bb)
UTG+1 (Hero): $7.24 (362 bb)
MP: $1.00 (50 bb)
MP+1: $1.01 (51 bb)
CO: $3.19 (160 bb)
BU: $2.21 (111 bb)
SB: $3.37 (169 bb)
BB: $2.00 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG+1 with A A
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.07, 1 fold, MP+1 calls $0.07, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.07, 1 fold, BB calls $0.05

Flop: ($0.29) 7 5 4 (4 players)
BB bets $0.06, Hero raises to $0.14, 2 players fold, BB calls $0.08

Turn: ($0.57) Q (2 players)
BB bets $0.26, Hero calls $0.26

River: ($1.09) 5 (2 players)
BB bets $0.52Hero....?

I raised pre- got called, villain donks small into me and I make it a bit more because I think he can be doing this with any type of draw, combo draw, pair + draw type stuff I still think Im ahead most of the time on the flop

On the turn he bets out half pot and I find this interesting, still unsure because the board is so wet he can have alot of stuff here I decide to just call. On the river he bets half pot on a 5 which doesnt complete any of the draws. So I think he might have picked up a Q sometimes, a set, or a 5? what are your thoughts on the hand. Im getting 3:1 on a call am I good here 1/4 of the time, the reason I re-raised small was because I wanted to keep much of his weaker ranges in the pot still and fold if he showed aggression on an ugly card but on the turn when he donk bet again I got a bit confused on what he can have here I felt like many players would play theyre nutted combo draws this way .


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Torcato
Joined: 17.02.2010

Hello,

Nice hand in general.
It's sort of a crying call OTR but I'd just call it anyways.
Cheers!


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yadijavadi
Joined: 31.01.2018

This guy has a real wide range coming into the flop. On that board his range hits many combined hands, like, pair with a draw.

His little flop donk further encourages me to think he has something like 78 (tp with gutshot), or 56 (2nd pair with oe). He could also have plain old draws, or some kind of double draw with straight and flush possibilities.

When he donks the flop he could have some nutsy hands too, like the set, straight or 2p, however, once he calls our raise we can take most of them out of his range.

Your raise wants to be bigger, this betsize is puny. He needs to call just 8c to win almost 60c!!

The Q comes on the turn and he donks quite small again... We can assume he doesn’t have the queen unless his Qx of diamonds paired, but this isn’t very likely. This bet does, however, look strong! We’ve already taken most the nuts out of his range but 2pair like 75 is starting to look more likely again. I think that his most likely holding is a very well connected low pair. He might even have a pair with an open-ended straight-flush draw.

I do like your call on the turn, it’s nice and cautious. However, I think his range is heavy with those combined hands which I want to get more value from. We could put him to the test with a little raise over his turn donk. If he jams, we fold. If he calls, we have him beat and are in control on the river... Or perhaps we raise bigger to get him committed, or we could even raise jam... I prefer any of these raises to the call.

River brings a horrible card
for us, loads of his hands improve to beat us. The fact that he didn’t change his betsize from the turn makes me think his hand strength hasn’t changed, but maybe that’s what I’m meant to think.

He has a couple combinations of Qx in his range. He also has some 7x and even some random air/missed draws so we beat quite a lot. Hands that beat us are those dangerous 5x hands, and some rare ubernuts. So is an easy call for me.

I’m defo writing a note on this guy. Especially if he shows up with a set or a straight.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Flop raise is way to small. You can easy raise like 30c against him for value and protection.
As played all draws are missed and you beat now some 2 pair hands as well and I would call him down as well.

Cheersm
SDK1987


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Casey55
Joined: 19.07.2010

Yes i think you guys are right the re-raise was so small it’s cringy lol.


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yadijavadi
Joined: 31.01.2018

Don’t forget to tell us happened Casey!?

... If I got it perfect with 56s the mods might finally respect me??


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Casey55
Joined: 19.07.2010

he had 77 flopped a set, that's why I was asking what we thought on the turn, I guess it was a strong play now that I know what his hand was he was trying to protect it on the turn with that bet.


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I think I'd fold turn.


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yadijavadi
Joined: 31.01.2018

He just played like a spaz. Don’t try to justify the villains plays but do try to understand your villain. Write notes like:

Donk Flop tiny in mwp = Nuts
Donk turn halfpot = Nuts
Half pot barrel river = nuts on flop

This guy has little panic attacks when he hits the nuts. He plays them too passively. Bets too small. He’s scared he’ll lose his opponent.

If you also find that this guy bets big and aggressively at times, perhaps by check-raising, you can usually presume this is what he does with bluffs, until you’ve seen him do otherwise.


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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

I'm fine with this. Board is awful for us, but I understand the flop raise (but not the size).
Calling down from here seems totally fine against his sizes. His line looks super fishy, we never know what he can be representing. AA is just too strong.
Call, take notes and move on like yadi says


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