3-bet bluffed on the river, should I fold?

I think it's probably a pretty reasonable fold sb is going to have all the low to mid pp's and maybe some suited connectors.And that's what they rep on the river is a full house an maybe a straight depending on the player type.Villain likely isn't putting you on a strong of a hand as you have maybe some over pairs they are trying to get you to fold.Because it's a 3bet shove over your river raise though it's a really nutted line with not many bluffs imo.Also you could even think about flatting the river as a bluff catch as villain cant really call a raise with worse.So you just open your self up to getting jammed on by better hands and in this case a bluff.But maybe this hand is a little to strong to not raise with on the river for value.

BB should usually have a wider calling range than the SB. Big Blind can usually call a raise with a wider range than SB consisting of most broad-ways, and a ton of suited middle/weak hands because he is the last player to act and has the 1bb forced bet in the pot which will help his pot odds where-as with SB he has to worry about 1 player left to act and has less invested into the pot already so he should tighten his calling range usually. The 2nd factor is the position of the Original Raiser, against UTG we should have a tighter calling range.

This actually makes it so SB's calling range should be much tighter than most would think, A decent range for SB in this situation would be ;

Raising with; QQ+AKs

Calling with : JJ-77,AQs-ATs,KJs+,QJs,JTs,T9s,98s,AQo+

3-bet bluffing with; A5s, 98s, 87s ( you don't have to bluff this is just to balance our premiums)

However if it was just BB who called UTG's raise BB's range could be something like

Raising with; QQ+, AKs, AQs

Calling with; JJ-22,AJs-A2s,K5s+,Q7s+,J7s+,T7s+,96s+,87s,ATo+,KTo+,QTo+,JTo

3-bet bluffing with; 86s,75s+,64s+,54s,43s ( you don't have to do this but its for balance)

If you type these calling range into Equilab you will see BB will be having alot more of the middle and weaker suited cards in this situation and SB having some middle pairs/middle cards and some stronger broad-way hands

the hand played out odd, I would have thought about just calling the river bet, Villain is representing strength and and when you re-raise on the river you are only getting called by hands that beat you unless you know this guy is out of line. When I bring the stats to the river SB has ;

full house 4%
over-pair 24.3%
PP below TP 8.11%
Ace-high 36.5%
No made hand 27%

the range I gave him is a good standard though I don't know what type of player villain is it could differ.

Hello,

Your play doesn't make any sense. You raise for value on the river right? Which means you believe you have the best hand and that you can be called by worse hands. Facing a shove the only reason I found for folding the stack left behind.
As played I'd raise the turn for protection and for growing the pot.

I don't think a call on turn is to bad to keep villains range as wide as possible. Off course it would be nasty if the backdoor flush comes, but than you have still a bluff catcher. If he 3bets the turn you are in a nasty spot as well with full houses in his range and semi bluffing makes not to much sense for him.

I think on NL5 there aren't to many players that will call the turn with the intention to bluff the river. It's off course interesting if there is some history between both players.

Cheers,
SDK1987

The mistake you made Gianzzurri, was not following your percieved range.

… When you check the flop you are basically telling the villain that you have nothing. A high perhaps.
… The turn card comes dead and so it looks like you hold nothing. A high perhaps.
... The villain makes a weak little stab and you call. Your percieved range is still mostly A high.
... The river card is a dry card too, so your range is still heavily weighted towards A high.

When you raise over the villains river bet, what does it look like you hold?

This is actually a Level Five play which I dont get very many chances to talk about. I sense the length of my posts can sometimes be intimidating, and so I'll keep this short:

The fact that Level 5 plays can be used against unknowns in the 5c games shows that the common understanding of these levels is completely wrong.

Please keep the discussion about the hand.