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3 betting fish and new unknown player from BU T9hh

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Casey55
Joined: 19.07.2010

The first player min-raises is fishy, 2nd player is an unknown I have never played with I note nearly everyone and hadn't played with him before, first 2nd or 3rd orbit in he's been playing a bit not splashy but not nitty either.

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 8 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

UTG: $3.65 (183 bb)
UTG+1: $1.60 (80 bb)
MP: $2.31 (116 bb)
MP+1: $2.32 (116 bb)
CO: $2.01 (101 bb)
BU (Hero): $2.32 (116 bb)
SB: $2.00 (100 bb)
BB: $0.80 (40 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with 9 T
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.04, 1 fold, MP+1 calls $0.04, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets to $0.18, 2 players fold, UTG+1 calls $0.14, MP+1 calls $0.14

Flop: ($0.57) 2 9 T (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP+1 checks, Hero bets $0.12, UTG+1 calls $0.12, MP+1 raises to $0.64, Hero calls $0.52, UTG+1 folds

Turn: ($1.97) 5 (2 players)
MP+1 bets $1.50 (all-in), Hero ....?

Im thinking he has a set here but I don't know him enough could he have x/r on the flop with a hand like QJ OESD and 2 overs? AT? I call and he shoves the turn. easy fold ?

I know flop bet could have been more , my time bank was running out as I was choosing a 1/3 pot so I panick pressed what I had while I was adjusting the sizing


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biel1996
Joined: 09.12.2015

I like to 3-bet this kind of hand when playing against someone who folds a lot to 3-bets preflop. Against fishes/unknown, I prefer calling.

OTF the point is, if you call, both stacks get smaller than the pot, so i'd rather raise all in when he 2-bets you. Most likely hands from him are JJ and QQ. TT/99 are a possibility, but I think is a risk you should take, given the odds and card removal effect.

As played, turn is a call for me.


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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

You have top two pair. There's nothing more to be said


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Casey55
Joined: 19.07.2010

Originally posted by biel1996
I like to 3-bet this kind of hand when playing against someone who folds a lot to 3-bets preflop. Against fishes/unknown, I prefer calling.

OTF the point is, if you call, both stacks get smaller than the pot, so i'd rather raise all in when he 2-bets you. Most likely hands from him are JJ and QQ. TT/99 are a possibility, but I think is a risk you should take, given the odds and card removal effect.

As played, turn is a call for me.

Idk if he would just call fishes min raise pre flop with JJ+ Maybe


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Casey55
Joined: 19.07.2010

Originally posted by zetozinho
You have top two pair. There's nothing more to be said

Not sure what this means? So if I called and he shows a set it’s just a cooler? That doesn’t seem right, there’s got to be more to it , I know I block some of his sets but seriously what else could he have? JJ+ probably raise pre , idk confusing hand


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Casey55
Joined: 19.07.2010

Originally posted by StannisBarath3on

Originally posted by Casey55

Originally posted by zetozinho
You have top two pair. There's nothing more to be said

Not sure what this means? So if I called and he shows a set it’s just a cooler? That doesn’t seem right, there’s got to be more to it , I know I block some of his sets but seriously what else could he have? JJ+ probably raise pre , idk confusing hand

Some strong combo-draws:7s:8♠: , Q♠:J♠:, K♠:Q♠:, A♠: J♠: , A♠:Q♠: . That's why you should shove OTF as played. To protect your hand from this type of hands. If he has a set it's a cooler

Yeah agree with QJ maybe, Idk I think villain semi-bluffing x/r to 64c with backdoor spades into 2 people seems a bit optimistic, AQs,,AJs, KQs, would probably see a raise preflop and even those I dont think are check raising material. its a multi-way 3-bet pot .


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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

Casey, you can't fold two pair here, it's the top of your range. It doesn't matter what he has.
Flop is dry, you basically don't fear any turn card, so I prefer just calling the check/raise (which is huge btw).


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Pre-flop I would just call in position. I don't think a 3bet bluff will work to often on NL2 and T9s is a hand that has a lot of playabillity post-flop multi way. As played a 1/5 pot bet is extreme small. Especially multi way you can easy Cbet around half pot and even more for value. As played I would 3bet shove the flop with top 2 pair. You are blocking almost any set. Turn is for me a blank and I would call the over shove. Off course his move looks strong, but on NL2 he could over play weaker hands than a set.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Id call pre as well and with top two pair in a 3bet pot blocking sets it's probably to strong to fold here.Villain can turn up with draws maybe JJ QQ.Once you call villain can also put you on the draw they might of been raise/folding something like ATs on the flop.And once you call they decide its good enough to jam the turn it's tough to know.


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Timmaywin
Joined: 23.02.2010

Become the fish by calling people fish and scaring them away from the tables! :f_drink:


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