Calling a 3-bet with pocket pairs.

Hey,

The problem is that when i tend to call with medium pocket pairs like 88-JJ, i will most likely always stack of when i have overpair in flop with no draws, dont you ?

Nope, I will most of the time want to see SD cheaply. Unless villains range is weak and I can valuebet somewhere.

Often enough times i lose it either to a bigger pocket or some Ax suited and the opponent will hit either A or suit or any other bigger card than my pocket pair.

I am really not suprised at all. What stack-off range do you give your villain here? Of course it's going to be over pairs, very strong draws and stronger hands. Only total whale might pay you with something worse.

And with lower pocket pairs, its even worse, most of the time flop card are bigger than your pockets and even if you hit your set with, you will often times enough will get set over set as well. Example 66 on the board of J62 with no draws, you get it all in, and the rive comes Q while opponent having QQ.

You should not set-mine with those cards in 3-bet pot. Those play bad with low stack to pot ratio and as you stated have huge reverse implied odds vs higher sets.

You will face C-bet most of the time and the pots are already so big that it makes hard to just flat call or raise and reevaluate the flop or turn. The same goes just by C-betting or donk-betting, or check/raising and then again reevaluating flop or turn. The pots are in flop already so big, and they become even bigger when making some moves. Is it really worth all of that hustle ?

Micro stakes players are rather straight forward in 3bet pots. Floating or xbetting is good but you need a position to apply this strategy.
You need to know your villain, wether he is aggressive or passive? It is much more difficult to play vs aggressive players, specialy OOP.

My quick advice is that you should:

• get Equilab (free download in tools section).
• assign villain 3bet range
• create somewhere a template of various flop textures that you want to work with to simplify strategy (eg. 456r, K72tt, AK7r, QT9tt etc)
• for each scenario check how your range (or pockets only) play vs villain range on each board
• adjust for being IP and OOP, for aggressive and passive villain
• be happy in 3bet pots

The problem is that when i tend to call with medium pocket pairs like 88-JJ, i will most likely always stack of when i have overpair in flop with no draws, dont you ?

Nope, I will most of the time want to see SD cheaply. Unless villains range is weak and I can valuebet somewhere.

Yes, if you could see SD cheaply it would be perfect.

But the problem is that you will face C-bet almost for sure, and already that gonna make pot very big, not speaking of 2 or 3 barrels.
Also, why you would not stack off with lets say JJ on the board like 10-5-2 with no draws ? Its quite bad to just pay and see the turn or river, because there are so many bigger cards that can come out than your J, and if you just pay C-bet in 3bet pot and turn comes out either Q,K or A, its quite hard to continue from here, and boom, you lost a lot of your stack. Also by re-raising or getting all in in the situation i mentioned, there could be alot of A10 or Ax suited overall, so the opponent gonna either call or fold, in both cases you should win overall in long term. Most of the time you will see however bigger pocket than yours...

And that goes with most of the pocket pairs , when the board is all cards lower than your pocket, without any draw possibility.
Also you mentioned that you should not ever set-mine with low pockets as well ? So do you think that with low pockets you should just raise/fold pre-flop ? Never call 3bet ?

I am winning player overall. I am using free version Hand2note, where you cant filter out how much you have won or loss by calling 3bet pots with pocket pairs. Not sure can you do it with other statistic softwares, but if you can, then can someone filter it out and see is that has been profitable to call 3bets with pockets in long run, overall ? That would be awesome, thank you.

I dont have any problems with calling 3bet pots with any other cards, only those pocket pairs tend to be very hard situations for me, because of playability and situations i mentioned before. I still however pay 3bet pots with pockets from time to time and mostly ip, and then try to play the most right and best i can from there. But i really dont know am i winning in those particular spots overall in the long run, maybe i do, maybe i dont. Those are just some spots that i find is very difficult for me. Hard to play, hard decisions, situations and hard to make profit overall in these situations.

So what you think, can you make profit in long run by calling 3bets with pockets or not ? If yes, then what are the common circumstances and ways to play, to make it easier and profitable. If not, then do you suggest just raise/fold ? What about 4bet ? Would you ever 4bet/fold or 4bet-all in pockets ? If yes, any examples of circumstances and situations what would be the best and how ?
What you think overall what moves and plays will make the most positive profit in long term overall, when facing 3bets, while holding pockets.
Thank you.