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urby29
Joined: 08.03.2014

In about 7 minutes this happened, all all ins lost, 6 buy in gone in couple of seconds. Wiped out in less than 10 minutes what I won in last 10000 hand basically.
NL 2 zoom

K9s, hit the flush on turn, I check-raise big on turn, he shows QQ in the end of course
66, call 3 bb raise pre, thn I continue to make big bets, he shows 88 in the end of course
AA, I couldnt let it go I put him all in on flop, he showed 22
QQ, he put me all in on flop, was hoping for a pocket like 88,99,TT,JJ, well he had A4s got his straight
AK, bit of mistake on river I was way too committed, he showed QQ a flop quad of course
QQ, I can be lucky with QQ too, hot flop set, manage to put him all in oon flop es shows AKo, and gets a flush backdoor flush of course:((

I sit out and closed Stars really thinking about cashout that small bankroll and uninstall before another similar quick sessions will eat all my money for nothing..


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Stars is the toughest room in my opinion for micro limits.

I've already migrated to partypoker where I play smothly and try GGpoker with the free money I will get.

Despite the above comment I don't think that PS is rigged.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

I hate being harsh, but...
K9s -- you can't bet big with 2nd nut flush on a paired board --
66 -- set over set loss is not that uncommon, but it still hurts -- note also that on that board, a made straight is possible
The other hands are pretty standard coolers -- you get it in good, but still lose.

Note that in 3 of the 6 hands your $EV difference was positive -- in the others, not.

You'll get used to this after a while -- and after a while you'll have similar spots go your way.
News flash: you will actually see more spots where you lose to suckouts when you're playing these so-called "soft" sites. Why? Because these fools will call with anything, and call down with anything, and will hit with a mathematically certain frequency. For example: AA vs 72 offsuit has an 88.2% chance of winning by showdown. That means 72o will beat AA over 10% of the time.

Cheers,
VS

Cheers,
VS


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SittingOuts
Joined: 05.05.2010

Same today for me, altho I did recover later on. Lost 6.5BI in short time too. Reg tables.

Just keep going at it, it will turn around!


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Schito11174
Joined: 24.04.2020

Hard to argue that Pokerstars is rigged but then again if it happens so frequently, it is kinda tough to swallow and you start thinking again.

In the last 100-150 hands cash game on a micro level I lost AA against JJ, I lost AA against 77, I lost KK against 22 all on an all in level, I lost QQ against QT because he hit a ten twice and then finally I lost with my top set on the flop against a backdoor flush. He shouldn't have called that hand preflop, he should definitely not call his hand on the flop and yet again he did and won the hand. Mind you it's not like I had 5 other big pocket pair and won them, no these were the only ones and I lost them all. Obviously hard to be profitable like this but then again that's how it is.


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marcvz
Joined: 03.04.2012

I started playing this year after a break.
Came back on stars and was supprised that they limited the amount of tables to 4.
But well, I stuck around anyway and started playing. And I have never seen so many fish in 1 pool as now is the case at PS nl2.

Really, if you don't play fancy. Just cbet fold, or call call call if you hit.
You just can't lose.
Don't bluff, overfold, 3bet a lot from the blinds against steals.

It won't be optimal, but you will make money.


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Thiamtan
Joined: 18.02.2010

you are funny guys

when you win the hands when the show that you not call the pokerstars rigged

hehehehehe


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arthurbentley
Joined: 12.10.2010

Originally posted by marcvz
I started playing this year after a break.
Came back on stars and was supprised that they limited the amount of tables to 4.
But well, I stuck around anyway and started playing. And I have never seen so many fish in 1 pool as now is the case at PS nl2.

Really, if you don't play fancy. Just cbet fold, or call call call if you hit.
You just can't lose.
Don't bluff, overfold, 3bet a lot from the blinds against steals.

It won't be optimal, but you will make money.

Believe it or not there were people on here who moaned about Pokerstars introducing a four table cap for cash games. A minority of us, two to be exact, reasoned the games would be less congested with regs and become much softer. Today 2nl plays like pre-black Friday. I'm running at 10/bb over 250k hands played since the introduction of the table cap. My winrate when the tables were reg infested was 6bb.


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Schito11174
Joined: 24.04.2020

Nice. I guess it‘s you then who constantely hit the 2 outers lol.


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marcvz
Joined: 03.04.2012

Well, if your observation is that the player you lost against shouldn't have called your bets in that situation.
Give him a nice colour tag. I do this all the time.
And sit at tables were you have a lot of people tagged as fish.

And if you play zoom. You know the player will overcall. So next time, his stack will be yours

It's a good way to get some +EV out of your bad beats
You'll make up for the bad beats in notime.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

All poker rooms are more-or-less the same at the micros


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Pokerstars .es is the easiest at micros.

Not sure if I should play there but they sent me a promotional email.
Looks they made mistake since I haven't qualified for any promos last time I ordered customer service.

Unfortunately freeroll it's over, but no worries.


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Dragar
Joined: 09.09.2008

Poker is is 100% rigged!!!!

Moooooooooooraaawwwr.
GGPoker No-Limit Hold'em $0.02/$0.05 - 6 players

Button: $7.26
SB: $2.72
BB: $7.48
UTG: $11.27
UTG+1: $3.75
CO: $5.80 (Hero)

Preflop: ($0.07) Hero is CO with (6 players)
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, Button folds, SB calls $0.13, BB folds

Flop: ($0.35) (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.35) (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($0.35) (2 players)
SB bets $0.26, Hero raises to $1.13, SB raises to $2.57 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.44, SB shows, Hero shows

SB showed , and won ($5.49) with Four Fours
Hero showed , and lost with Kings Full over Fours
SB won $5.49

Found the solution though. If you wear tin foil, and cover your PC in it as well, they can't switch on the boom switch vs you.
Run good coming up!! :f_grin::f_drink:


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

What are you guys talking about? PokerStars is awesome!! :f_love:

PokerStars - $0.16 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 100 BB
CO: 100.31 BB
Hero (BTN): 102.31 BB
SB: 16.13 BB
BB: 105.38 BB
UTG: 103.25 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J♦ J♥

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) J♠ T♦ T♠
UTG checks, Hero bets 1 BB, UTG calls 1 BB

Turn: (9.5 BB, 2 players) T♣
UTG checks, Hero bets 5.06 BB, UTG calls 5.06 BB

River: (19.63 BB, 2 players) 4♥
UTG checks, Hero bets 18 BB, UTG raises to 65 BB, Hero raises to 93.25 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 28.25 BB

Spoiler

Hero shows J♦ J♥ (Full House, Jacks full of Tens)
(Pre 72%, Flop 95%, Turn 2%)
UTG shows A♠ T♥ (Four of a Kind, Tens)
(Pre 28%, Flop 5%, Turn 98%)
UTG wins 196.88 BB


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Those are nasty coolers, but that can happen on every poker room or casino.
If you would really hate PokerStars you wouldn't play there most likely :f_ugly:

Cheers,
SDK1987


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bro it seems like you dont have a simple understanding of variance.
It work can work both but we always choose too ignore the hands we win through luck? like we deserved it.
one can only play hands too the best of the our abilty and could possible win 6 buyins in 6 hands, you just need make plus ev decisions consistently.


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

The way I see it, everybody takes a beating sometime.

Spoiler


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Dandiiik
Joined: 19.07.2009

This is just an inseparable part of poker. If you cant deal with this you just dont have what it takes to play the game. I am for instance 8BI below EV over the last 100 hands with AA. Basically every time I went all in with AA over the last like 30k hands I was way ahead and still lost. That just happens and will happen. Not a fault of the poker room.


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onetimebigtime
Joined: 06.05.2020

It's ok It's alright stop whining and get back at the tables and get your money back with interest

always remember "onetimebigtime" coming


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

I presume the opposite is also true


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