NL16 QQ vs A3s

Allin pre with A3s is definitely not standard. It could be used as a bluff in your 4 bet range to balance your 4bet range (to avoid only having value hands when you 4bet), but it makes no sense jamming it then like this. He could make it like 23-25 bb as a bluff and fold if you 5bet all in.
A3s blocks the A and can make a nut flush and a straight, thats why its a good hand to use as a bluff 4bet. But only to balance your range, not as a value 4bet.
You marked him as a tight fish, but he plays 28% of hands. Thats not tight.

How would you then mark a guy like this. Loose passive guy, but his play is not passive though. I don't know where tight stops and loose begins though, its not like that tight stops at 20% of hands and then suddenly he is loose it is a gradual system I guess.

Ok thanks for the confirmation that A3s is not a pre all in spot.

Originally posted by advancedTN1984
How would you then mark a guy like this. Loose passive guy, but his play is not passive though. I don't know where tight stops and loose begins though, its not like that tight stops at 20% of hands and then suddenly he is loose it is a gradual system I guess.

Ok thanks for the confirmation that A3s is not a pre all in spot.

I would not tag him as loose or tight based on these stats. Whether he is passive or aggresive you cant really conclude either. I would say loose with a vpip of 35+. But thats personal off course how you like to tag people. But its clear he is not very tight.

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Doubtlessly not a standard play by any means.

From now on you have to play a hand with him always because he tends to make mistakes and overvalues his hands a lot.

Maybe he loves to bluffs all in on the river or just reshoves on the flop with top pair.

I think he's afraid to play post flop so his only play with A3s in reshoves all in because he doesn't want to get bluff at.

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Thank you! I will take a closer look to my tagging system which is in a smaller pool a little more important because I accumulate more hands on these guys. Also his rfi can we conclude based on 780 hands that he is more or less positional aware with his raise first in?

I do think his vpip / pfr is somewhat accurate. But his stats over the positions I don't know it yet. If I divde 800 / 6 we have around 100 hands for every position, utg a little less cause there are a lot of 5 players on a table. btn also has not always had to opportunity to rfi in himself. So can we draw conclusions about the rfi on every position whitin these couple hundred hands?

I will just add that in this case you can do a small analysis on him. 780 hands is quite enough already. Not to make any definitive conclusions but just to see if you can discover similar spots and some patterns. Maybe this is his way of 4bet bluffing. Maybe he just bursts like this every now and then. Maybe you will discover that he 4bets for value with normal sizing and does this with a bluff. According to stats he is by no means any overly aggressive fish so this is more likely to be some move of his. So take a look at those 780 hands and try to discover similar spots and then try to exploit this tendency of his.

Thanks, I did a small research. I found one similar spot and a lot of 3-bet calls with mediocre hands from a few other spots. Could it be that he doesn't like 3-bets and is not fold happy pre when he had the intention to play the hands.

Have to think about playing against it. Probably it is good idea to have extended value range and a bad thing to have a polarized 3-bet range against him.

Originally posted by advancedTN1984

Have to think about playing against it. Probably it is good idea to have extended value range and a bad thing to have a polarized 3-bet range against him.

Yep exactly. Against such a guy you want to have a linear 3bet range focused on value.

28/18 is a Tag for me but the gap of 10 between vpip and pfr is verging on passive fish,30/15 for example would be passive fish for me so their kind of on the edge of player types.Not sure what villain is up to preflop it's certainly not a standard play for this player type imo.Maybe some tilt creeping in to their game if they are losing on other tables it's difficult to say it just looks like a random spew to me.

As you guys know I can 5bet/shove A5s preflop as a bluff in blind battles but I can't do it without the illusion of fold equity. In other words this is a spew, imo.

It's a spew guys. Don't spew your chips away.