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Zoom 6Max, QQ vs BTN 129BBESS, weird spot

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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

The villain is an unknown.

Jx I beat but I lose to KK/AA/JJ.

What do you think?

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 129.1 BB
SB: 211.1 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 254.85 BB
MP: 105.49 BB
Hero (CO): 305.32 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♣ Q♠

fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BTN raises to 7 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 22.5 BB, BTN calls 15.5 BB

Flop: (46.5 BB, 2 players) J♦ 4♥ 3♣
Hero bets 15.46 BB, BTN calls 15.46 BB

Turn: (77.42 BB, 2 players) 6♠
Hero bets 26.22 BB, BTN raises to 58 BB, Hero ??

Thoughts?


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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

I'm going to write it again: post your thought process in every street please. It helps us and yourself because you need to rewind the hand in your mind.
Pre ok.
What's your flop strategy on this J high dry board OOP? I'd would either cbet 1/4 or 1/3 range or check range.
Turn size is too small. You need to apply pressure on QT, JT, TT, 99, 88, 77.
I'm not double barreling always, turn can be a check. That's why I would bet bigger too.
As played, I can't fold although I don't see any bluffs. He could protection-raise a weak J imo though vs your size.


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by zetozinho
I'm going to write it again: post your thought process in every street please. It helps us and yourself because you need to rewind the hand in your mind.
Pre ok.
What's your flop strategy on this J high dry board OOP? I'd would either cbet 1/4 or 1/3 range or check range.
Turn size is too small. You need to apply pressure on QT, JT, TT, 99, 88, 77.
I'm not double barreling always, turn can be a check. That's why I would bet bigger too.
As played, I can't fold although I don't see any bluffs. He could protection-raise a weak J imo though vs your size.

Hey, thanks. I'm betting small on flop and turn because I wanted to keep the pot size relevant to his stack size. By river, there is 90BB in the pot and he would only have 63BB or so. Yeah, whatever this is, I have to call it off here like you said.


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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

The thing is that the turn size doesn't impact SPR OTR. You are all-in no matter what, this is a 4bet pot.
So bet big so extract maximum value.


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by zetozinho
The thing is that the turn size doesn't impact SPR OTR. You are all-in no matter what, this is a 4bet pot.
So bet big so extract maximum value.

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PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 129.1 BB
SB: 211.1 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 254.85 BB
MP: 105.49 BB
Hero (CO): 305.32 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♣ Q♠

fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BTN raises to 7 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 22.5 BB, BTN calls 15.5 BB

Flop: (46.5 BB, 2 players) J♦ 4♥ 3♣
Hero bets 15.46 BB, BTN calls 15.46 BB

Turn: (77.42 BB, 2 players) 6♠
Hero bets 26.22 BB, BTN raises to 58 BB, Hero raises to 267.36 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 33.14 BB and is all-in

River: (259.7 BB, 2 players) 9♠

Hero shows Q♣ Q♠ (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 56%, Flop 74%, Turn 86%)
BTN shows K♠ A♣ (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 44%, Flop 26%, Turn 14%)
Hero wins 257.2 BB
May be he thinks he has FE when he sees the small bet on turn?


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kfcsekirata
Joined: 01.11.2013

I sea bluffs really rarely when they play like that on the turn. His play doesn`t make any sense what value hand he can have except JJ and KK after 4 bet. I guess I would also calls as you played it.


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