JJ 3 bet pot big c bet

It is a really big bet for a 3bet pot on flop. Draws may be? Or he is mindful of FD with a weak King.

I am not sure but this is a difficult call to make oop, imo.

Preflop playing so deep I like the call vs 3bet.
I'd consider calling with the J♦: playing so deep.
Without it and facing such a big bet I think calling may be ok, although I prefer folding. We have position so we can pot control this, but I think it's a marginal situation where villain is usually value betting (with the wrong size) and against his value we have 2 outs.

Originally posted by zetozinho
Preflop playing so deep I like the call vs 3bet.
I'd consider calling with the J♦: playing so deep.
Without it and facing such a big bet I think calling may be ok, although I prefer folding. We have position so we can pot control this, but I think it's a marginal situation where villain is usually value betting (with the wrong size) and against his value we have 2 outs.

Oh, crap, I misread the hand again. Yeah, we should call ip. Because if it is draws he is bombing on flop it's gonna be really tough for him to continue on turn if he misses. Also, we have BSD which is nice but I prefer calling with the Jack of Diamond more.

As played, I have to float one time and analyze the turn. Folding on the flop with great showdown value is weak. If you are calling 3-bet pre-flop with Jacks in the box be ready to call at least one pot size c-bet maximum. More than that you can give up. The good thing here is you have implied odds. You are playing 191bb effective in position.

On the turn, it will be all-in if you did not improve then it's time to give up.