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7 $ | HU HT | facing probe ott | 43o

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Axif1
Joined: 19.11.2011

PokerStars - 15/30 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 22.5 BB
Hero (BB): 10.83 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 3♦ 4♣

SB calls 0.5 BB, Hero checks

Flop: (2 BB, 2 players) 4♦ 5♥ J♥
Hero checks, SB checks

Turn: (2 BB, 2 players) 8♥
Hero checks, SB bets 1 BB, Hero calls 1 BB

River: (4 BB, 2 players) J♣
Hero checks, SB checks

Spoiler

Hero shows 3♦ 4♣ (Two Pair, Jacks and Fours)
(Pre 35%, Flop 74%, Turn 11%)
SB shows Q♦ 8♠ (Two Pair, Jacks and Eights)
(Pre 65%, Flop 26%, Turn 89%)
SB wins 4 BB

Is calling turn too marginal?

I don't expect many air non-flush hands to be betting on the turn.

And villains tend to bet merged in these kind of spots.

What are your thoughts?

Thanks


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

You beat only a bluff on turn and board is pretty wet. That makes it tough to callwithout any info on him.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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BubbleNedRum
Joined: 13.02.2011

haven't done too much work on this, but 43o is one of the better candidates to punish his wide limps at this stackdepth, I think (edit: by jamming)
as played I'd rather go into a probing line than a x/c line with 4-high 10bb effective. lowcard boards also hit the checker better than the completer.


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Axif1
Joined: 19.11.2011

Originally posted by BubbleNedRum
haven't done too much work on this, but 43o is one of the better candidates to punish his wide limps at this stackdepth, I think (edit: by jamming)
as played I'd rather go into a probing line than a x/c line with 4-high 10bb effective. lowcard boards also hit the checker better than the completer.

Interesting insight. Do you play HU as well?

Anyways, OOP, it is always hard to make money. As we have a positional disadvantage.

We don't have 4-high, but bottom pair. But still, that might be pretty similar vs some villains.

It is really hard to get a sample on these probing opportunity spots, as it is not that common and we rarely make it to SD.

But their range is rather capped. Mostly some overs, maybe weak pair, backdoors... so pretty weak range. Some guys do slowplay and checkback TPGK, SPGK, but it is not very common. I have to run through my database. Problem is, that I still don't have big enough sample.

So maybe GTO would come into play here. Cause I definitely wanna overbluff some spots, and I am not sure whether it is good or not.

In spots, where villain is SB in limped pot and checks twice, I bet UBER wide otr. As his range is usually capped to weak hands that cannot call a bet, unless villain is a station obv.


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BubbleNedRum
Joined: 13.02.2011

argh, my bad, I thought we had an OESD instead of bottom pair. then i like the line you took :f_thumbsup:

i play 6max turbos, but want to improve my HU game.


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Axif1
Joined: 19.11.2011

Originally posted by BubbleNedRum
argh, my bad, I thought we had an OESD instead of bottom pair. then i like the line you took :f_thumbsup:

i play 6max turbos, but want to improve my HU game.

I have just sent you a friend request
we can defo talk some hands on skype


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

If hand was suited I would shove pre as default. More often checking this one though. Postflop seems fine though folding turn is not bad either.


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BubbleNedRum
Joined: 13.02.2011

Originally posted by ghaleon
If hand was suited I would shove pre as default. More often checking this one though. Postflop seems fine though folding turn is not bad either.

Is this more of a feeling or have you done work on this? Because so far I have the understanding that we rather want to jam offsuit garbage (of course only to some frequency) to punish his limps and check the suited ones behind, because they have more playability.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Well haven't studied really but I think it goes both way. That when we do get called we will have bit more equity.


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