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kfcsekirata
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04.11.2020, 01:04

The villain is reg, who is tight, but not very good reg. On the one hand I thought I had value bet because he checked the turn, but what worse hands are calling here. Do you think he calls with Q or K here?

iPoker - €0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

Hero (MP): €111.61 (223.2 bb)
CO: €50.39 (100.8 bb)
BTN: €51.13 (102.3 bb)
SB: €52.00 (104 bb)
BB: €62.12 (124.2 bb)
UTG: €80.75 (162 bb)

SB posts €0.25, BB posts €0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.75) Hero has A♦: A♠:
UTG raises to €1.50, Hero raises to €4.50, 4 folds, UTG calls €3.00

Flop: (€9.75, 2 players) T♠: 8♠: Q♣:
UTG checks, Hero bets €5.50, UTG calls €5.50

Turn: (€20.75, 2 players) K♠:
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: (€20.75, 2 players) 4♦:
UTG checks, Hero checks

Results: €20.75 pot (€1.03 rake)
Final Board: T♠: 8♠: Q♣: K♠: 4♦:


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Tomaloc
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04.11.2020, 01:43

villain can have some kings for sure, even AK that doesn't 4-bet because of positions and stack depth.
however, we strongly block it, and i don't like bet/check/bet lines in general because we usually represent exactly what we have (not a flush, and often just one pair). the fact that villain is weaker makes me more inclined to bet, but i don't feel too strongly about this either way.


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pisiattu
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04.11.2020, 07:41

Can you write your 3bet range and his flatting range?

I think that set raise this flop, there very few combo of flush, prolly only Q♠:J♠: and 7♠:6♠: and KK 4bet preflop oop

I bet turn 1/3 turn (for thin value and building when there is a :spade: river) and on 4♦: check back


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kfcsekirata
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04.11.2020, 08:57

Originally posted by pisiattu
Can you write your 3bet range and his flatting range?

I think that set raise this flop, there very few combo of flush, prolly only Q♠:J♠: and 7♠:6♠: and KK 4bet preflop oop

I bet turn 1/3 turn (for thin value and building when there is a :spade: river) and on 4♦: check back

It really depends on the opponent. Against most if the opponents i don't have flatting range, i guess also against this one. I dont have idea what his calling range is, i expect pocket pairs and high suited cards


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Trommelboy
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04.11.2020, 13:22 +1

What are your c-bet sizings? I think your sizing is interesting. No opinion, I just want to know.

Anyway, I think you can clearly bet/fold the river for like 30% to get value of single pairs. The 4 is an absolute blank and I think villain just wants to get to showdown as cheaply as possible with hands like, AQ, AK, JJ, KJs and KQ which we don't beat ofc. You can valuebet his bluffcatchers imo.

Flushes and AJs would have lead the river I think.


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Trommelboy
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04.11.2020, 13:23

Originally posted by Trommelboy
What are your c-bet sizings? I think your sizing is interesting. No opinion, I just want to know.

Anyway, I think you can clearly bet/fold the river for like 30% to get value of single pairs. The 4 is an absolute blank and I think villain just wants to get to showdown as cheaply as possible with hands like, AQ, AKo, Jiggities, KJs and KQ which we don't beat ofc. You can valuebet his bluffcatchers imo.

Flushes and AJs would have lead the river I think.


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Trommelboy
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04.11.2020, 13:24 +1

Originally posted by pisiattu
Can you write your 3bet range and his flatting range?

I think that set raise this flop, there very few combo of flush, prolly only Q♠:J♠: and 7♠:6♠: and KK 4bet preflop oop

I bet turn 1/3 turn (for thin value and building when there is a :spade: river) and on 4♦: check back

I like this turn line but I think realizing our equity is fine because I would hate being x/r on the turn even though we have a gutshot and nut fd.


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