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AKs from CO - defend vs 5bet from BU?

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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

So, I get ~40% pot odds and against QQ+, AK my equity is ~42%, so it is a marginal flip.
Would a fold be a mistake?
I was thinking, if I had 4bettet larger, the decision to defend against the 5bet would have been even easier.

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 132 BB
BB: 122.5 BB
UTG: 187.5 BB
MP: 510.5 BB
Hero (CO): 139.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♠ K♠

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, BTN raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 20 BB, BTN raises to 100 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 80 BB


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Since BTN has exactly 100 BB, and this is zoom, I'm guessing you have no clue as to his tendencies.
I would like to know more about 4Bet sizes, since I don't 4Bet all that much, but when I do, it is 4x or 5x

vs a total unknown, I don't think you're too wrong to 4Bet shove yourself, but the call makes sense to me


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

4bet sizing could be more for sure. Especially out of position, but 30bb in total is big enough. Otherwise you are committed if you make it more. it could be that you now induce a shove as well, It's also interesting how much time villain thinks when you made your 4bet and when villain shoves. Could be a tell sometimes. Especially if it was really fast.

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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

Originally posted by SDK1987
4bet sizing could be more for sure. Especially out of position, but 30bb in total is big enough. Otherwise you are committed if you make it more. it could be that you now induce a shove as well, It's also interesting how much time villain thinks when you made your 4bet and when villain shoves. Could be a tell sometimes. Especially if it was really fast.

Cheers,
SDK1987

What would it mean if villain instantly shoves? I would say it means, that it's not bluff. But the range could still include QQ.


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Originally posted by monteCarlol
So, I get ~40% pot odds and against QQ+, AK my equity is ~42%, so it is a marginal flip.
Would a fold be a mistake?

id 4bet 25 ish bb but ye dont 4b fold from these positions as calling is +ev as you stated.


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marcvz
Joined: 03.04.2012

Meh. Calling is +ev if you include AK.
But if you don't and only include QQ,kk, as. You are behind.
I 4bet fold this one, or just flat. 5bet shoves with AK are rare on nl2.


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pisiattu
Joined: 01.04.2010

2x oop isn't good, pleasant 2.5x.

Co vs Bu he can call with worse hands than your and push pleasant QQ+, AK maybe also Ax5s.

From this positions I don't fold


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Swish29
Joined: 06.04.2009

Yeah I would 4b close to 3x OOP, and call a shove.


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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019