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efkay
Joined: 25.03.2005

If you expect to pay 2k rake on low-midstakes, expect PVI 0.1


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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

Does anyone know the best room to play at for rakeback right now?


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In my opinion it's betfair on ipoker with certain affiliates you can get 35% flat contributed rakeback plus 10% extra from rakeraces plus you get the missions promotions betfair runs.Another alternative would be ACR for 27% flat rakeback and they also have a streamer promotion running which it might be worth a look at. If you can stream the volume they require you might earn some extra $$$ from that promotion.Party also seems like a reasonmable option with 20% cashback if you want to stick to larger sites.But you can also split your time between a couple of sites and play them in the peak hours and it usually differs with each site.

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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

Originally posted by RedsYNWA
In my opinion it's betfair on ipoker with certain affiliates you can get 35% flat contributed rakeback plus 10% extra from rakeraces plus you get the missions promotions betfair runs.Another alternative would be ACR for 27% flat rakeback and they also have a streamer promotion running which it might be worth a look at. If you can stream the volume they require you might earn some extra $$$ from that promotion.Party also seems like a reasonmable option with 20% cashback if you want to stick to larger sites.But you can also split your time between a couple of sites and play them in the peak hours and it usually differs with each site.

gl.

cheers man. I was thinking ACR, i've seen their crypto currency 200% bonus of 1k, it sounds really good. Only trouble is i dont know if PT4 is supported there.
Betfair does sound good, just depends on the traffic on rush tables. Also i'm not a new member there so dont get any initial deposit bonus, but would at ACR.
Is ACR 27% + the deposit release bonus do you know?


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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

I'm always wary of sites, just think they won't let me withdraw easily which worries me!


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I'm not to sure about ACR it's an unregulated site which is about all i know ive thought about it a few times myself but the peak hours don't really suite me "you can but try".The trustworthiness would worry me a little bit so i guess the only way to combat it is to keep a minimum bankroll on there.I guess your going to get different worries about any site or network you play on but if your not breaking the t&c's i wouldn't panic to much otherwise you would never play online.

Although i wouldn't worry about your money to much with betfair they are one of the largest bookmakers in the UK and very trustworthy imo.If you have an existing account check to see if your getting a 35% deal.You can do that by looking at your vip and making sure its vip level 11 and 100%.If it isn't then you can try retagging the account with an affiliate that offers 35% before depositing.A lot of sites make you clear the first deposit bonus before you start getting the cash back anyway so you don't usually get both at the same time from what ive seen.


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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

Ah right. Well i've got retagging in process for party poker and betfair.
I think i will switch. I was looking at pokerstars and it's like 2-8% rakeback isn't it?! seems ridiculously low compared to whats out there. . .


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Ye the rakeback is very low on stars but the traffic is high the software is very good so it's all about picking what suits your requirements the best.Try some other options and see how you feel at the end of the day pokerstars will still be there if you change your mind in a month or two.

Gl.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by DecMate
cheers man. I was thinking ACR, i've seen their crypto currency 200% bonus of 1k, it sounds really good. Only trouble is i dont know if PT4 is supported there.
Betfair does sound good, just depends on the traffic on rush tables. Also i'm not a new member there so dont get any initial deposit bonus, but would at ACR.
Is ACR 27% + the deposit release bonus do you know?

It was supported a few months ago -- I've seen no announcements that anything changed.
I know nothing about their rakeback, cashback or bonuses

I just played a few hands on ACR -- PT4 is definitely supported.
It shows in the list as "Winning Poker Network (Yatahay)"

Cheers,
VS


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The player pool is meant to be quite soft on ACR the best person to ask might be a fellow streamer that plays on there i would recommend Tony.He's been playing some Blitz poker on ACR their version of zoom.I think he's doing a bit of a cash challenge mixed in with his tournies. Also ACR are running a special streamer promotion which might be worth looking in to and maybe Tony can get you a decent deal as he has an affiliate link i believe.Check out his stream he's on most days and i'm sure will answer any questions you have i think ACR also has a discord channel.And i do know he uses a tracker on ACR so it's definitely supported on there.

Link for Tony's twitch channel he's on most days
https://www.twitch.tv/tonyw4rriorz


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

Stars has 4% rakeback, with variance. Party starts with 20% and increases if you rake a lot. Exapmle, you get 30% if you rake 600 a week. Ipoker has insane 6,66% rake at PLO, with 20bb cap! At PLO20 it drops to 5% with 10bb cap. Still pretty high. There is a Primetime Video about rake: https://www.pokerstrategy.com/video/50894/


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Redaktor
Joined: 06.09.2020

Originally posted by Kyyberi
By "business" I referred player-GG relationship. Nothing to do with PokerStrategy.

Poker players are weird breed. They play at stars small stakes (regs with high volume) and give up thousands of dollars due to lack of rakeback. They play at GG and give up thousands of dollars due to lack of rakeback.

I get it if you are playing for fun, but to grind hours every day... I don't get it. Probably they just haven't ever realized how much they would make more with rakeback.

What site could you refer than ? Any suggestions ? I've tried RIO but the traffic is very low there right now.


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Nomboo
Joined: 27.04.2012

How do I know what my PVI is?


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Thiamtan
Joined: 18.02.2010

PT4 works in ACR


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

Originally posted by Nomboo
How do I know what my PVI is?

You write down your balance and points before a session. Then after the session you see your balance to know your winnings. Then compare that to the winnings shown in PokerCraft (that is without rake). Difference is the amount you paid in rake (unless you won big hand jackpots). Then compare that rake to the number of Buffet points you got. If PVI=1 (normal), then one raked dollar gives 100 points.


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Kamen992
Joined: 09.05.2011

Hey, guys i want to ask simple question . What happens if I have 100k points in whale status and cant reach end goal and i want to switch back to black octupus today. I know that if i wait 30 days more i will receive 10% but if i decide to switch today am they going to convert instantly those 10% or i am loosing the points ? Thanks.


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Originally posted by Kamen992
Hey, guys i want to ask simple question . What happens if I have 100k points in whale status and cant reach end goal and i want to switch back to black octupus today. I know that if i wait 30 days more i will receive 10% but if i decide to switch today am they going to convert instantly those 10% or i am loosing the points ? Thanks.

You shouldn't receive 10% the points should be converted for which ever whale level you reached below black so between 40% to 48% i would think.Depending on what your pvi level is the actual rakeback percentage you get in reality for the points is another question as its about as clear as mud.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

As far as I know, all unused points will be converted to money for 10% value.


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Originally posted by Kyyberi
As far as I know, all unused points will be converted to money for 10% value.

Didn't know that it would make more sense to convert the points for the level you have achieved.


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