KK - 3bet pot OOP - Axx

Originally posted by monteCarlol
W34z3l talks about this in his "C-Bet - Sizing and Selection" video:

Characteristic of an OOP Check as PFA:
- Anything that doesn't have s͇i͇g͇n͇i͇f͇i͇c͇a͇n͇t͇ ͇v͇u͇l͇n͇e͇r͇a͇b͇i͇l͇i͇t͇y͇ ͇i͇s͇s͇u͇e͇s͇
- Strong hands and semi-bluffs can be check/raised
- Most one pair hands can be check/called
- Weaker draws can be check/called

Does an A on the flop qualify as a significant vulnerability issue?
The board is very dry -- it is rainbow and there are no significant straight draw -- yet.
The turn and river bring more and more possible straight draws.

I might CBet here, just to realize my equity, but it is bet/fold

As played I like the turn call, but the river completes several possible straights and two-pair hands, so the check is fine.
Would you have called a river bet here?

Despite of the ace my hand is not vulnerable.
Non-vulnerability means that my equity is retained as my opponents range gets stronger.
This is more a way ahead or way behind scenario.

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
I might CBet here, just to realize my equity

It's not a sufficient reason to bet or raise. As long as you never fold you realize 100% of your equity, so for instance If you x/c FTR here you will realize your equity.

Edit: And you're not guaranteed to realize your equity here because you bet, you may still fold later in the hand.

Originally posted by Swish29

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
I might CBet here, just to realize my equity

It's not a sufficient reason to bet or raise. As long as you never fold you realize 100% of your equity, so for instance If you x/c FTR here you will realize your equity.

I see what you're saying.
I meant it in the sense of getting worse hands to fold, and taking what is there.
Often we want worse hands to call, but if there are worse hands here, we wouldn't mind too much if they folded.

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
Often we want worse hands to call, but if there are worse hands here, we wouldn't mind too much if they folded.

Well I think it's more betting to avoid playing a guessing game, and when we bet and get a fold, we don't have to guess anymore and it's convenient ♦. Better hands that would fold to a cbet have at best 2 outs, sometimes it's KQs/QJs and we crush these hands, it's not like we hold JJ-TT, in that case I'd rather bet and get a worse hand like KQs to fold.

Of course I'm checking more than KK here, sometimes AA, but mostly weak Ax that I can't triple barrel for value on blanks.

You can cbet and no put other money in the pot or use a strategy mixed and check this flop.

I prefer cbet and gg