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monteCarlol
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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

Originally posted by RedsYNWA
I watched this video on poker bank about player types years ago and it's still a system i use which i think works very well as i like to keep it as simple as possible.

Watched it and took some notes:

# Types Of Poker Players (Nits, TAGs, LAGs, Fish, Etc.)

Source: < https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCSC_QtCGxE> 

## 6 Different Player Types for Classification

- Nit
- LAG
- P-Fish
- TAG
- A-Fish
- Unknown

### Concepts

- When there is more information we can deviate from the default lines.
- With limited information a quick classification and stereotyped idea can work fine
- Use stereotypes until the stereotype is no longer needed
- The wider the gap in VPIP/PFR the more passive that player tends to be
- Aggression and passiveness usually tend to carry over post-flop

## Nit

- AKA: Rocks or super tight players
- Most straight forward pre-flop and post-flop
- Tight in terms of VPIP and PFR
- Can be passive or aggressive
- Most nits will seem more passive
- Use stats like: `fold-to-steal`, `fold-to-3bet`, `limp/fold` etc.
- Pre-flop: Attack their blinds
- Post-flop: Stay out of huge pots (without nut hands)
- Look to bluff a bit more (2barrel/3barrel)
- Respect their raises

## TAG

- Not too tight, not too loose
- Within the spectrum there is a decent range of tightness and aggression
- Lots of TAGs have similar VPIP/PFR but different `3-bet`, `cbet-flop`
- Give their raises respect on average (but a little less than towards a Nit)
- Until we have more information be more cautious before exploding pot sizes
- Do not get involved in all-in pots without nutted hands
- As default be careful with single pairs in SRP (especially facing raises)
- TAGs are not necessarily good/winning players

## LAG

- Toughest player type to beat
- The widest range they can afford to play and still be good
- If a LAG would play even more hands they will shift to a fishy category
- If a LAG would play even more passive they will also shift to a fishy category
- A LAG takes more spots than a TAG, but in a more controlled way than a fish would
- Most players fall into Nit/TAG spectrum - only few good LAGs
- Because LAGs have more hands in their opening ranges, they often aren't as strong-side weighted
- They bluff more than Nits/TAGs by wide margins
- Exploit their aggression by taking lines that induce bluffs (e.g. if they have a wider bet range than call range)
- Widen cold-calling/3bet value ranges
- Exploit LAGs who open too wide and `fold-to-3bet` too often

## A-Fish (Aggressive Fish)

- AKA: Maniacs
- High VPIP and high PFR
- Bets and raises too often
- WenNeed to think about pot size creation goals
- Planning ahead becomes important
- Think about what big of a pot does your hand perform best in
- Stats like `3-bet`, `cbet-flop`, `raise-flop`, etc. vary greatly from A-Fish to another
- It's rare to have a big stats sample, so we need to stereotype and adjust well
- Give them a chance to bluff
- Cold call pre-flop more often (especially IP)
- While we miss flops a lot we stand to make solid profit when we hit
- We don't need to raise anywhere because their bluffs are so valuable
- MINIMAX = Minimizing our loss while maximizing our gains

## P-Fish (Passive Fish)

- AKA: Calling stations
- Treat unknown players as P-Fish
- Due to their passiveness we should respect their raises more (pre-flop and post-flop)
- Wider gap in VPIP/PFR + pretty low PFR
- Value bet a lot
- Do not bluff often
- Occasional pot shot bluff
- Do not get involved lightly
- We destroy fish with hands

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Incog
Joined: 18.08.2006

Originally posted by monteCarlol

Originally posted by RedsYNWA
I watched this video on poker bank about player types years ago and it's still a system i use which i think works very well as i like to keep it as simple as possible.

Watched it and took some notes:

# Types Of Poker Players (Nits, TAGs, LAGs, Fish, Etc.)

Source: < https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCSC_QtCGxE> 

## 6 Different Player Types for Classification

- Nit
- LAG
- P-Fish
- TAG
- A-Fish
- Unknown

### Concepts

- When there is more information we can deviate from the default lines.
- With limited information a quick classification and stereotyped idea can work fine
- Use stereotypes until the stereotype is no longer needed
- The wider the gap in VPIP/PFR the more passive that player tends to be
- Aggression and passiveness usually tend to carry over post-flop

## Nit

- AKA: Rocks or super tight players
- Most straight forward pre-flop and post-flop
- Tight in terms of VPIP and PFR
- Can be passive or aggressive
- Most nits will seem more passive
- Use stats like: `fold-to-steal`, `fold-to-3bet`, `limp/fold` etc.
- Pre-flop: Attack their blinds
- Post-flop: Stay out of huge pots (without nut hands)
- Look to bluff a bit more (2barrel/3barrel)
- Respect their raises

## TAG

- Not too tight, not too loose
- Within the spectrum there is a decent range of tightness and aggression
- Lots of TAGs have similar VPIP/PFR but different `3-bet`, `cbet-flop`
- Give their raises respect on average (but a little less than towards a Nit)
- Until we have more information be more cautious before exploding pot sizes
- Do not get involved in all-in pots without nutted hands
- As default be careful with single pairs in SRP (especially facing raises)
- TAGs are not necessarily good/winning players

## LAG

- Toughest player type to beat
- The widest range they can afford to play and still be good
- If a LAG would play even more hands they will shift to a fishy category
- If a LAG would play even more passive they will also shift to a fishy category
- A LAG takes more spots than a TAG, but in a more controlled way than a fish would
- Most players fall into Nit/TAG spectrum - only few good LAGs
- Because LAGs have more hands in their opening ranges, they often aren't as strong-side weighted
- They bluff more than Nits/TAGs by wide margins
- Exploit their aggression by taking lines that induce bluffs (e.g. if they have a wider bet range than call range)
- Widen cold-calling/3bet value ranges
- Exploit LAGs who open too wide and `fold-to-3bet` too often

## A-Fish (Aggressive Fish)

- AKA: Maniacs
- High VPIP and high PFR
- Bets and raises too often
- WenNeed to think about pot size creation goals
- Planning ahead becomes important
- Think about what big of a pot does your hand perform best in
- Stats like `3-bet`, `cbet-flop`, `raise-flop`, etc. vary greatly from A-Fish to another
- It's rare to have a big stats sample, so we need to stereotype and adjust well
- Give them a chance to bluff
- Cold call pre-flop more often (especially IP)
- While we miss flops a lot we stand to make solid profit when we hit
- We don't need to raise anywhere because their bluffs are so valuable
- MINIMAX = Minimizing our loss while maximizing our gains

## P-Fish (Passive Fish)

- AKA: Calling stations
- Treat unknown players as P-Fish
- Due to their passiveness we should respect their raises more (pre-flop and post-flop)
- Wider gap in VPIP/PFR + pretty low PFR
- Value bet a lot
- Do not bluff often
- Occasional pot shot bluff
- Do not get involved lightly
- We destroy fish with hands

A very good list and summery. I did an excelsheet myself, since I wanted the diffrent colours for the playertype as well. It helped me alot the last 3 weeks to identify and exploit. some thoughts: I wouldn't go to the extreme with some characteristics of the playertypes. I like to induce bluffs vs. LAG and A-Fish with smallerbetsizes and not only checkRaises (especially with nuthands). I think we are exploitable this way (if villain is clever), but we extract more value this way.

edit1: how is ur "NL2 challenge" coming along?
edit2: added a crucial "not" to to description above


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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

Originally posted by Incog
edit1: how is ur "NL2 challenge" coming along?

BR: $54.68
Overall ok. Bit swingy.


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AgapieGheorghe
Joined: 10.07.2011

That is a nice comeback.


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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

I am not super confident about my game, yet. Therefore, I don't feel totally comfortable to post a video of me playing.
Anyhow, I recorded a session yesterday. If you want to improve you have to step out of your comfort zone.

Here it is:

Stats: 25/21 3.93 BB/100 (318 hands)

You can view/download the hand history here.


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Nice video :f_thumbsup:
disclaimer "i am not a coach" but hopefully the feedback will help a little.

1.50
KQ iso - we can cb AJ3 rainbow even though its 3 way we should still have enough fold equity.We have the gs and can keep the pressure up on the turn and make it difficult for villains second pair hands.We also keep control of the pot on the turn and allow ourselves the option of checking back and realizing free equity by cbetting the flop.

8.00
A9s we iso and get 2 callers which isn't great the flop 3J2 it doesn't connect great with anyone i think we can cbet this board with the back door fd+sd and over.

10.20
55 flop T62 for me this is just a check give up without the spade with the spade you can check call or cbet.

10.40
AQs flop KT6 two tone we just want to be cbetting these spots with the gs and over the queen will also be an out vs some of villains range.And we can barrel the turn to keep the pressure on all villains second third pair hands we have good equity and very good fold equity in these spots.Or we can check back turns to realize some free equity cbets only need to be around 50% on flop.Check folding this spot is probably a little to passive

14.06 really like the raise vs the donk bet with AJo on Ak7 two tone bb vs co

16.30
AQo vs min raise on flop 1/2p turn the flush draws miss and were getting a good price on the call were near the top of our range i think we should be calling down here vs villains sizing.

18.58
64s bvb vs sb limp just check and see a flop no need to raise this hand.

19.55
KK sqz pot flop A97 rainbow i typically just cbet here for 1/3p to charge villains draws and second best hands.We can also keep control of the pot on the turn villain will mostly check turn to us we can check back decide rivers and realize our equity.

20.46
98o we iso a 47.5bb limp with 98o and this is the bottom of our button opening range and not likely strong enough to iso especially vs a short stack id look to iso something more like my co range in this spot.As played we end up showing down a non showdown value hand i would barrel the turn with the gs. Or bet the river when checked to us again there's just no value in checking 9 high here on the river.

24.35
KQo in the bb vs btn open sb call we can definitely look to squeeze here btns range is wide and sb range is capped to middle strengh hands + sb is a fish. We can try to iso a 64bb fish and get hu with a lower spr ip or we can take it down pre either will do.

33.08
K8s vs a btn 3x is a clear defend imo even with the sb call the sb just gives us better implied odds,either call or possibly squeeze.I did notice earlier in the session you folded KJo vs an mp open which is more marginal.And you folded A3s vs a co 4x which i also think is a defend but possibly more marginal but might indicate your not defending bb enough in certain spots.

34.47
A4s flop QT5 two tone this flop hits button range reasonably well and ours badly we have poor back door equity i wouldn't cbet here but put a club on the flop and we can cbet with the backdoor equity.So possibly need to think more about our raw equity and fold equity and pick better spots to cbet where we can turn better equity to keep pressure on villain.

38.54
TT vs mp open and both co and btn call this is a great squeeze spot for TT and i would almost certainly squeeze here there's 9bb in the pot to pick up uncontested.It's not likely for the co or btn to have us beat here pre their ranges are pretty much capped and We also want to thin the field as much as possible pre.

39.30
86s flop 93T rainbow we cbet and pick up and open ender on a J we can think about barrelling our improved equity and put pressure on second third pair hands.It's not the greatest spot as we have the bad end or the draw but we might be missing out on fold equity here. So its a possible spot to keep up the aggression as we have a non showdown value hand.

43.07
KJo we open btn vs bb call flop AT6 rainbow we can cbet the flop here with the gs this flop has a ton of fold equity for us and we should also think about barrelling some turns to keep pressure on villains second pair type hands.Good turns to barrel are hearts as we have the Kh and can credibly represent flushes on the river with a bluff if the flush draw completes.You can also cbet the flop here and if called villain is almost always going to check turn to you so you also have the option of checking back turn and realizing your equity free.

44.48
ATo we iso btn limp from sb and bb calls and btn call flop KKQ this is just so often our board although you do need to be more careful in 3 way pots i still think you can cbet this for your fold equity.It only needs to be about 1/2p.Same reason as before if called we have the initiative and keep control of the pot. The turn is going to check to us the vast majority of the time and we can either barrel or check and realize our hands equity for free.As played we check fold flop so again a little to passive and quick to give up initiative imo.

47.21
AJs mp open co calls we squeeze from bb i really like the squeeze.

53.47
99 in the sb vs mp limp and co iso we can definitely 3bet here and take initiative and hopefully get the fish hu or take the pot down pre uncontested.

54.24
A6s we open utg bb calls flop k75 two tone this hits our range well and we should be looking to cbet with our back door equity we have back door flush and straight draw + the over card.Again only needs to be 50% pot you have ton of fold equity we need to capitalize on.As played we check flop and check call A turn and fold on the K river i would likely now call river as well. were just playing a bit to conservative and giving up the initiative and control of pots a little to easy.

59.26
AQo bvb should really be 3betting this hand and taking initiative and control of the pot or possibly take it down uncontested pre.As played flop KT3 two tone we raise villains cbet with a gs i don't hate it but possibly the aggression is a little misplaced.

59.46
AKo we raise mp and 66bb fish calls from bb and donks pot on KTJ rainbow (we can definitely raise for value) but we call which i also think is ok villain checks on the 3 turn and we check back.For me this is a clear value bet and i would be looking to shove on that blank 4 river for value as well when villain checks again i think we missed value here.

Notes
Look to be more aggressive when we have the initiative think more in terms of raw equity+fold equity and pick the cbet spots. That allow us to keep the aggression up on later streets more effectively and looking for back door equity is key to doing that.Don't be scared to fire a second barrel with a gs or especially when you increase your equity on turns with strong draws to put pressure on villain.Think about taking lines on the flop that allow us to realize our equity better on later streets by keeping the initiative and control of the pots which allow us more options on later streets.Work on putting hands in to simple categories on each street value/showdown/non-showdown to help take correct or optimal lines more effectively.


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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

Awesome, RedsYNWA, thank you so much!
Will carefully go through all of your suggestions and comments.


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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

@RedsYWNA: I think your comments are right spot on. I missed some cbets for sure. Actually I am trying to implement what I have learned from W34z3l's "C-Bet - Sizing and Selection" video. I have taken the wrong decision sometimes. But he favors a lot of checking. Especially OOP he says that a good frequency is ~25-30%. I definitely need to look for more 2nd barrel spots, especially when I pick up equity. That K8s hand I think I simply didn't see correctly. I would normally defend that. I have a different approach to the KK 3bet pot OOP with Axx board. I posted it in the forum to get a second opinion.
Thanks again for the valuable review 🙏🏻


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Swish29
Joined: 06.04.2009

Some general remark: I see no adaptation preflop, I would open wider some spots. It seems that you simply follow charts even when you could play pots IP vs recs, and with no reg that seems to 3bet you.

Will continue the rest another day :)

00:08 T2: I’d iso, QJo plays better in HU than MW. I’d have lead with 2 OC/GS. SB has trash most of the time (surprised to see AQo here, it’s worth a note), BB could have K5o/J5s etc.

00:57 T3: Why don’t you raise flop? Good fold as played imo.

03:13 T2: I would have snap folded :)

03:42 T3: Why don’t you mark the rec who posted BB as a rec? Why don’t you tag players in general? Imo it’s important that you do so because you’ll play the same regs a but, and when you select your tables in the lobby you can see if you should sit (Would there be nits on your left? Unknowns from elsewhere than Russia, Ukraine or Belarus or recs or your right? How many regs at the table?). You’ve been at NL2 for a while despite working on your game, sure it might need more work, maybe you ran bad, but the rake is also very high and table selection should be done, even at these stakes.

03:58 T2: I would have called for 1bb because of the backdoor to the nuts/1 OC/BD FD

05:48 T1: I would raise A8o CO with a rec in BB

06:12 T3: It’s a decent spot to check actually, you have the T♦: so you can afford to let the villain see a turn, and sometimes the rec will limp/call Q5hh here and it’s a disaster to not let him bluff this hand.You don’t really have 3 barrels of value (AJ/AQ could play like this, he could make 2p etc.).

07:30 T3: Why did you bet turn? What do you hope to accomplish? I don’t see how villain can fold any pair (maybe 22 if he plays it like that), or call AJ no FD, so you may value AQ but that’s it imo.

07:43 T1: Interesting open with K7o T1, is the 3rd stat of 2nd line the 3b%? If yes, OK to open that.

09:38 T2: BT, with 98o, I’m overlimping for sure. SB has only 12 PFR, BB is a rec, it’s not even close imo.

10:43 T2: I would have folded, you can’t continue on many turns, you have bad equity vs draws, 77 would be a better hand to call, or if you had the 5♠: as well, or even Q♣: J♣: that can call more turns.

10:47 T3: Imo it’s OK to check here, but folding possibly the best hand (think of all the FD/Gushots there are on KT6dd!) while having 3 outs to the nuts is not OK! Sometimes bad players would bet A9o here because you checked, not thinking that it’s a terrible hand to turn into a bluff when they already have so many natural bluffs.

12:00 T1: I call 64s BB vs BT + SB, you close the action vs 2 bad players.

15:25 T1: I defend KJo BB vs MP

15:50 T2: I would consider 3bet/fold AQ on the flop here, he already raised your cbet earlier. As played, I expect a rec to bet more with better than you given the course of action and board, I would have x/r turn. I would call river as played.

15:52 T1: Overlimp A3o?

16:39 T2: Open ATo EP with 2 recs in blinds?

17:40 T1: I would have called 22, he donked a lot. You beat all his K6ss/A4o etc.

18:56 T2: Villain checked way too fast to have a better hand than you. Sure he could have AJ/full that beats you but I would bet 25% here and expect to get called by any pair.

20:20 T3: I play KK like this too.

20:35 T3: Would iso 3x or overlimp. I actually iso 3x regardless of size of my hand, to lose less when a reg 3bets, lose less when the rec limps/re-raises, and to be able to iso wider. We can manipulate the size of the pot later.

21:41 T2: Open KJo EP with 2 recs in blinds?

22:20 T1: It looks like the villain could have been donking air the whole time, I would be cautious when he suddenly checks, but apparently I was completely wrong :)


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Originally posted by monteCarlol
@RedsYWNA: I think your comments are right spot on. I missed some cbets for sure. Actually I am trying to implement what I have learned from W34z3l's "C-Bet - Sizing and Selection" video. I have taken the wrong decision sometimes. But he favors a lot of checking. Especially OOP he says that a good frequency is ~25-30%. I definitely need to look for more 2nd barrel spots, especially when I pick up equity. That K8s hand I think I simply didn't see correctly. I would normally defend that. I have a different approach to the KK 3bet pot OOP with Axx board. I posted it in the forum to get a second opinion.
Thanks again for the valuable review 🙏🏻

That's why i suggested thinking more in terms of showdown value/non showdown value/value hands , you can check losts of those showdown value hands like second pairs Ace high some weaker top pairs along with some stronger hands to balance/protect your checking range.And you also have your hands that are just check give up type hands without any good flopped or back door equity we want to check and try and realize some equity .With non showdown value hands your flopped draws and back door draws we can take advantage of fold equity and cbet those and look to barrel our turned equity.But cbetting those draws also allows us to keep cntrol on the turn and now we have choices to barrel or check back those draws to realize our hands equity better.So its all about hand selection what we want to check on the flop and why we want to check it.


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Incog
Joined: 18.08.2006

Hey Monte,

strong move to step out of ur comfortzone! :-). I will not give u specific hand tips, since Red and Swish already covered that. But I will give some tips about other topic like hud and playertypes.

When u are grinding a lot of hands, being comfy with the visuals and setup is essential. I like ur general overlay. Tablecolour and cardcolour is nice (I use this myself). The Hud on the other hand is very "overbearing".
IMO in the microstakes u only need halve of the stats u display. I invested time in my own setup aswell and it worked out great so far. I c that u changed some colourcoding as well. If u want to discuss layouts, hit me with a pm. :-) Since u have 50k hands u r familiar with ur hud, and I know changing is strange, but especially the immense size of numbers on the table must be "Eye-wrackening".

1. After 10k hands I shortened almost every stat of hud. Example: "ATS" could be "ST", seperator between stats " | " and I started using the grid-option. Try to rearrange some stats to get a nice small rectangle.
2. I like to colour the ranges VPIP/RFI of Villains to let me know of there general playstyle.
3. I colour the Player via Pokerstars only after the 100 hand (which I colourcoded via PS4 too)
4. I added general Stats of Hero (VPIP/RFI/3bet/ATS) via small line under ur seat. (This is good vs. regs who start thinking about table image etc.)
5. I added general Stats of Table (Average stack / average potsize)


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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

Originally posted by Incog
Hey Monte,

strong move to step out of ur comfortzone! :-). I will not give u specific hand tips, since Red and Swish already covered that. But I will give some tips about other topic like hud and playertypes.

When u are grinding a lot of hands, being comfy with the visuals and setup is essential. I like ur general overlay. Tablecolour and cardcolour is nice (I use this myself). The Hud on the other hand is very "overbearing".
IMO in the microstakes u only need halve of the stats u display. I invested time in my own setup aswell and it worked out great so far. I c that u changed some colourcoding as well. If u want to discuss layouts, hit me with a pm. :-) Since u have 50k hands u r familiar with ur hud, and I know changing is strange, but especially the immense size of numbers on the table must be "Eye-wrackening".

1. After 10k hands I shortened almost every stat of hud. Example: "ATS" could be "ST", seperator between stats " | " and I started using the grid-option. Try to rearrange some stats to get a nice small rectangle.
2. I like to colour the ranges VPIP/RFI of Villains to let me know of there general playstyle.
3. I colour the Player via Pokerstars only after the 100 hand (which I colourcoded via PS4 too)
4. I added general Stats of Hero (VPIP/RFI/3bet/ATS) via small line under ur seat. (This is good vs. regs who start thinking about table image etc.)
5. I added general Stats of Table (Average stack / average potsize)

That's excellent advice, thanks!
I avoid these kinds of things, because I am so short on time in general. But this seems like a very useful thing.


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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

Thank you so much @Swish29!
Will carefully go through all of your comments, before I even think about playing another session. 😊


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Swish29
Joined: 06.04.2009

Part 2:

23:10 T3: I would call A3s here, he opens quite wide most likely with such high PFR

24:38 T1: Could squeeze KQo (even if BT hadn’t disconnected)

27:38 T1: Would open 54s EP with 1-2 recs in the blinds. The regs on your left don’t look like they would 3bet you often enough and punish you for that.

28:30 T2: You could cbet less than ⅔ here, you’re IP, SPR is 5. I would rather checkback than bet so much, but I think betting 1.5-2bb is the best option. His range is super wide, when you bet 5bb we will only call with GS or a pair, but we’d like 87ss/J8ss type of hands to call a bet as well.

32:00 T3: I would not cbet 5/9 KJ on AJ8, you’re turning your hand into a bluff, you don’t need much protection, he did not call with T9o/QTo preflop most likely

34:19 T3: I would x/f A4cc on QT5ss as PFR, I guess you get small pocket pairs to fold (and some suited connectors, but only 87s and 76s without the FD) but that’s it.

35:06 T2: You could 3bet the KJo here from time to time

38:53 T3: Why don’t you squeeze TT here?

40:22 T2: Lead 96 here? Like 50% pot. People will float with any 2 over cards, Ax, 2x, any pocket pair maybe even Q8hh type of stuff that has OC + backdoors, FDs, etc.


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Originally posted by VorpalF2F
Best wishes for a very Merry Christmas,
VS

Thanks. The same to you!


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monteCarlol
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Thank you, @Swish29.
Really looking forward to going through everything in detail and improve my game, once I find some time for Poker, again. Really appreciate it 🙏🏻


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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

Hey @Swish29

Here are my responses to some of your comments from the first part. (2nd part will follow)
I totally agree with the other comments that are not quoted here. Very spot on, thank you.

Some general remark: I see no adaptation preflop, I would open wider some spots. It seems that you simply follow charts even when you could play pots IP vs recs, and with no reg that seems to 3bet you.

You are right especially when I am in EP (and MP). I more or less adapt when I am in LP (at least I try), but it never occurred to me to apply the same principles in EP because there are so many players behind me. Will pay more attention to it now.

07:43 T1: Interesting open with K7o T1, is the 3rd stat of 2nd line the 3b%? If yes, OK to open that.

SB fold to steal of 80%, that's why I opened with K7o.

10:47 T3: Imo it’s OK to check here, but folding possibly the best hand (think of all the FD/Gushots there are on KT6dd!) while having 3 outs to the nuts is not OK! Sometimes bad players would bet A9o here because you checked, not thinking that it’s a terrible hand to turn into a bluff when they already have so many natural bluffs.

Might be a x/r spot? Or x/c or b/f. I agree that x/f is too weak.
I don't like x/c that much because it is really hard to realize much of my equity if I hit the nuts being OOP. Probably not enough implieds to x/c, but that is just my intuition.

15:50 T2: I would consider 3bet/fold AQ on the flop here, he already raised your cbet earlier. As played, I expect a rec to bet more with better than you given the course of action and board, I would have x/r turn. I would call river as played.

I think my flop 3bet range in a SRP consists only of my strongest hands and is not balanced. It doesn't feel good to turn TPTK into a bluff. Will villain really fold with a FD? Villain is a rather loose/passive player. Min-raise flop could mean a weak top pair maybe. Still it's tough to call 2 more half pot size barrels as played.


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Originally posted by monteCarlol

Some general remark: I see no adaptation preflop, I would open wider some spots. It seems that you simply follow charts even when you could play pots IP vs recs, and with no reg that seems to 3bet you.

You are right especially when I am in EP (and MP). I more or less adapt when I am in LP (at least I try), but it never occurred to me to apply the same principles in EP because there are so many players behind me. Will pay more attention to it now.

When at a table with tight players, you can "steal from EP" since they tend to view open raises from UTG as stronger.

If -- for example -- you open 76s in UTG and get called, it is even OK if you lose at showdown, since now they see that you can do this, and your monsters now get some more action.

mind you, it is better if you flop the straight, flush, straight flush etc. :coolface:


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