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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010
Hey, Anyone Want This Pot?

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $2.82
SB: $2.58
BB: $2.50
UTG: $3.82
Hero (UTG+1): $2.48
MP: $1.67
MP+1: $2.44
MP+2: $3.14
CO: $2.00

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has T♥:T♣:

fold, Hero raises to $0.06, fold, fold, MP+2 calls $0.06, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.15, 2 players) Q♦:3♥:Q♥:
Hero checks, MP+2 checks

Turn: ($0.15, 2 players) 7♥:
Hero ???

As the pre-flop raiser, I was intending to CBet, but I would then need to fold to a raise -- had the opponent bet, I would have called something up to 1/2 pot.

OTT, I am thinking bet a half pot or so, since MP+2 doesn't seem interested, but I seriously dislike the 3rd heart.

Ideas?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I would most likely go for a thin value and protection Cbet on the flop.
I expect you get still enough value against a random NL2 player.

Turn is a tricky card, but I would most likely just check it down with decent show down value and T♥: could be good if the 4th :heart: comes on the river.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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cbet flop imo it's a decent flop for us and we can either barrel turn or check call holding the Th i think i prefer cbet flop and check call turn here.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Since I was OOP I thought that opponent would see the check as a sign of weakness and take a stab.
The turn delayed CBet was to get value from hands with a heart, but I guess he didn't have one -- he folded.


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Dragar
Joined: 09.09.2008

Just bet the flop, I may call a raise as well as thinking villains know it's a good spot to raise here.


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Taroxus
Joined: 27.11.2018

Like flop decision is not super easy, we have a way ahead way behind kind of hand so we'll always be guessing. There's not much to be done about that, it's the nature of the hand.

Both betting (to disguise our hand) or checking (to not play a bloated pot oop) are fine decisions. I think with some reads it'd be easier. If villain is tight or passive (thus predictable) i like a check more. If villain is really aggressive I'd bet and go all the way here (see showdown). If villain is a good player, I'd bet and then try to call down (hoping he floats and then tries to steal). Aggressive or not folding much vs cbets is the sign of a good player.

Given it is nl2 I'd take a check.

Turn is not close, and we should always bet & then play river as a check call (busted flush draws). If we get raised that's such a tricky bluff line that I'm ok making a huge gto mistake and folding.


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Taroxus
Joined: 27.11.2018

Betting to deny equity doesn't make too much sense btw as there are very few hands that have 2 over cards here, considering villain would 3 bet AK, it'd be exactly AJ.

denying equity means folding out hands, people wouldn't fold any pair or AJ, so we are not denying equity but bloating the pot.

Obviously I'm not advocating GTO play at NL2, I'd rather just give the 2 usd to the table than advocate something that idiotic ;-)


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Taroxus
Joined: 27.11.2018

I made a huge error this is 9 max lol, so we are at the bottom half of our range here

That makes checking better and that makes it so that I'd fold more easily

Sorry for the spam (but seriously I thought 9 max didn't exist any more!)


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by Taroxus
Sorry for the spam (but seriously I thought 9 max didn't exist any more!)

It does, and I play it when I'm bored -- or in this case where the is a challenge I can achieve just by playing hands.

There is even full-ring limit hold'em, although not surprisingly, there is no-one playing it right now. :coolface:


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