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AKs pre, Ship or fold?

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TFL999
Joined: 18.09.2012

Sample on villain is still pretty small. But 29/25/17 looks quite aggro preflop to me at first instance.

At micros preflop AI is very often AA or KK when it is not in a BB/SB/BU battle.

Villain tries to isolate a fish (UTG) from MP and I 3B him from CU. I think his range is quit wide when he tries to isolate seen his stats.

Villain decides to 4B really big. Which is hard to flat because of the stack to pot ratio postflop then. So leaves me with the deciosion Push or Fold.

What should Hero do?

** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ** (IPoker)
€10.00 EUR NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, January 17, 03:47:53 ET 2021
Table Wehingen (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( €10.05 EUR ) - VPIP: 29, PFR: 25, 3B: 17, AF: 6,0, Hands: 92
Seat 3: Hero ( €10.00 EUR ) - VPIP: 24, PFR: 19, 3B: 8, AF: 2,4, Hands: 29042
Seat 5: Player5 ( €10.91 EUR ) - VPIP: 35, PFR: 2, 3B: 2, AF: 5,9, Hands: 146
Seat 6: Player6 ( €10.00 EUR ) - VPIP: 22, PFR: 16, 3B: 0, AF: 1,3, Hands: 83
Seat 8: Player8 ( €3.70 EUR ) - VPIP: 13, PFR: 11, 3B: 0, AF: 2,0, Hands: 38
Seat 10: Player10 ( €12.98 EUR ) - VPIP: 29, PFR: 25, 3B: 17, AF: 6,0, Hands: 92
Player6 posts small blind [€0.05 EUR].
Player8 posts big blind [€0.10 EUR].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Kh Ah ]
Player10 calls [€0.10 EUR]
Player1 raises [€0.40 EUR]
Hero raises [€1.20 EUR]
Player5 folds
Player6 folds
Player8 folds
Player10 folds
Player1 raises [€3.90 EUR]
Hero ????


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Only real comment is make your iso raise bigger -- it gives your 4Bet more authority.
Did you put this hand into Equilab to see what your equities look like?

Besides the stats, did you have any other general observations about the player?
Some notes on past hands maybe?

I'd hate to fold here, but shipping seems like overplay, and because of the size of the 4Bet it is your only real 5Bet option.

I'm curious to read what the real experts think though...


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TFL999
Joined: 18.09.2012

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
Only real comment is make your iso raise bigger -- it gives your 4Bet more authority.
Did you put this hand into Equilab to see what your equities look like?

Besides the stats, did you have any other general observations about the player?
Some notes on past hands maybe?

The Iso and the 4B was from villain.
Do you mean I should have made my 3B bigger?

I didn't put it in equilab yet. Would be a good idea. But hard to figger out on what range I should put villain. Seen his aggro style preflop I would think there could be more then just AA/KK/AKs,. What do you suggest?

I didnt't see him get way out of line so far.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by TFL999
The Iso and the 4B was from villain.
Do you mean I should have made my 3B bigger?

I didn't put it in equilab yet. Would be a good idea. But hard to figger out on what range I should put villain. Seen his aggro style preflop I would think there could be more then just AA/KK/AKs,. What do you suggest?

Ooops -- sorry. Sometimes it is hard to tell from a plain text hand history.
Your 3Bet is a good size.

Suggested range
here is a "standard" MP vs CO 3Bet chart:

In Equilab:

       Equity     Win     Tie
MP3    40.46%  33.69%   6.77% { TT+, AJs+, KQs, AJo+, KQo }
CO     59.54%  52.77%   6.77% { AKs }

This is ignoring UTGs limp/fold

The same set of charts has AKs marked as "3Bet Call" in other words, your 3Bet is fine, but you should call.
These are not absolutes here -- since opponent appears aggro, you could consider the 5Bet.
Bear in mind that bad players can get good hands.

Cheers,
VS


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TFL999
Joined: 18.09.2012

Thx for your thoughts on this.

The equilab you put up here was the range against my 3B. His 4B range is gonna be smaller.

Indeed I usually should, and will, flat the 4B from villain.
The problem with this situation I had is that villain makes the 4B really big. Effective so big that calling is hard because of my stack to pot ratio on the flop then.
So that's what me left wondering, if calling is indeed (?) not an option: Should I ship it all-in pre or fold it. Given that this is NL10 with CU-MP. positions.

Rgrds,
TFL


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by TFL999
The equilab you put up here was the range against my 3B. His 4B range is gonna be smaller.

Yeah, true I didn't include the legend.
The red colour on AKo means 3Bet/5Bet
So the chart is suggesting that you continue with AK

I don't have 4Bet charts, and again, there is the added complication of the dead money.
Its small, but its there.


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