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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Just out of curiosity, what is your chip EV?
I had a run of 20 straight losses in a row.
There are 300 chips per tournament (maybe 500 I didn't check).
My chip EV was -32 per tournament.
The problem is that in the long run (and 20 isn't a long run) the EV should even out.
I rather suspect my skill edge isn't the greatest, but it is generally good enough to be slightly better than break-even


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vengeance77
Joined: 18.04.2010

The graph shows the chip EV, the approx 88% of the games you are starting with 15bb = 300 chips!


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by vengeance77
The graph shows the chip EV, the approx 88% of the games you are starting with 15bb = 300 chips!

I get that, but there is a stat "chip ev per tournament"
It is a custom stat for PT 4, but it is fairly good indicator of how you're running


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vengeance77
Joined: 18.04.2010

Hi,
After more than month of poker break I tried to play and N8 served that brutal suck out with software clinch in the same moment!

As you can see I payed the insurance, but it didn't pay me! After bullshits like ::
<<Yes Sir, if insurance premium is higher than the payout, no amount will be credited to player's account.>>
we ended with no refund and:
<<No worries Sir, we will check with our support on the calculation of insurance, we will get back to you again when our team revert.>>.
We will see! Don't expect anything good from them!


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Zaratras
Joined: 03.01.2009

Wow that pretty weird! Think it's time to change poker room?


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vengeance77
Joined: 18.04.2010

Trying to log in today, it doesn't accept my pass and then it wants me acc verification wich requires me to select country of residence, but Canada isn't there! ROFL


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vengeance77
Joined: 18.04.2010

:facepalm:
15 min after the 1st support life chat respond I've got this:

Calvin
Hello! Welcome to Natural8, I'm Calvin. So sorry for the delay, as we are experiencing high volume players at the moment. For this issue, this is just a temporary bug, and you just need to click whichever country, and press login continuously if the notice: invalid email or password pops up.

It worked at the end after approx 30 min of tries!


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vengeance77
Joined: 18.04.2010

I brought in the yesterday problem and after 2h of checking I received this answer!

Upon checking, the team has reported to the special team, they're checking, and will revert to you once it's completed.:ayfkm: :facepalm:
What to report? It is absolutely clear, that because of the software clinch I didn't receive insurance payment!:facepalm:


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by vengeance77
It worked at the end after approx 30 min of tries!

You have way more patience than I

definitely weird behaviour.

It seems really strange that a support staff person would advise you to "just pick any country".

All the best,
VS


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vengeance77
Joined: 18.04.2010

Eve
Hello. Thank you for waiting. Here is the breakdown for your recent query regarding all-in insurance:

[Flop]
Outs: 5 (5s5d3s3d3h) >> Odds: 6
Payout: $5.22
Premium: Payout / Odds = $0.87

[Turn]
Outs: 19 (AsAdAhAcKcJcTc9c8c7c6s6d6h6c5s5d3s3d3h) >> Odds: 0.6
Payout: $0.87
Premium: Payout / Odds = $1.45

One of Outs (8c) was dropped on River, you succeeded in the second insurance.
The payout was $0.87 and the premium ($0.87) for Flop insurance was deducted from the payout.
So, you received nothing in this case.

Should you require further clarification on the matter, please don't hesitate to reach out. Until then, have a good day ahead.
5/3/21, 4:34 AM

So we are paying insurance, but when we get such ridiculous suck out we are not getting payed!!! So if I pay insurance and win I am loosing 0.89$ and if I get sucked out I am getting 0! So I am always fckd and the only one who is making profit is N8!!
GJ:appl:

Never get payed or compensated remember!! Natural 8!!!:appl:


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vengeance77
Joined: 18.04.2010

Everything in life is super cool!=)

I made my entire roof of approx 2000 ft2 by myself in 5 weeks or 12 slave working days from sun raise till down with architectural laminated shingles. I used 5 GAF products for it and I was never working on the roof my entire life. I learned how to do it from internet and it cost me approx 3100CA, so saved at least 10 000CA and made it by the book/s:)

Before:

After:=)

I constructed an elevator to lift all materials on the roof using my car:). The wood boards were for free from my neighbours garbage. It cost me approx 50$ in total:).

Cheers


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Wow! Nice Job!
I know how hard this work is!

I helped my brother-in-law put the shingles on the roof of his house when he built it -- that was nearly 40 years ago.
We had no elevator, but just pulled the bundles up with a rope.

It was rather scary, because the roof pitch on the south side was very steep -- 49°
This was so that solar panels would have the optimum angle for when they became available -- but he never installed them.

The scary part is that we had to make scaffolds to stand on while nailing down the shingles because if we tried to stand on the roof itself, we would just fall off.


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vengeance77
Joined: 18.04.2010

Yea,
1 time is enough for lifetime:D All my joints and back are still in pain 2 weeks after! They are making money, but they are paying with there health, and the weather is forcing you to hurry as much as possible, because open roof is not allowing yo to even sleep well even if it is covered every night as I did.
My shed roof pitch is like 3/8 and it was hard without security line and exhausting, but my main roof pitch is about 3/12 and you can walk and work freely without protection.
The worst part was to tire off the old shingles! It literally scraped me!
I didn't get rid of the garbage yet, but it is in bags. It will take 1 full day!
Sick profession!


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by vengeance77
Sick profession!

My daughter has a boyfriend who was a roofer -- he might even be one still.
He's getting old though. The last time I talked to him, he was thinking of getting out.

The difference with the pros is that they have all the fancy tools and equipment, and a team of really young, strong apprentices to do the grunt work.


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vengeance77
Joined: 18.04.2010

Poker Guru!:tongue:

What a sick play by him, especially the sizings and the river call! If it was 50 OTT and jam OTR it would be actually pretty good play post!
:appl:


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vengeance77
Joined: 18.04.2010

Hi,
I saw from a few places, that the withdrawal from GG poker is often problematic, so I tried to withdraw and 1st I saw, that the most withdrawal methods are allowing min of 50$ and all of them are charging 1$ fee. The only one, that allows min 20$ was interac. So I tried it and 1 day after I received this:

Hello,
We regret to inform you that your withdrawal request for the total amount of $20.00 has been declined. The amount has been credited back to your balance.

Well that is pretty weird to decline an withdraw and to not argue for the reason!

I contacted the support and 1 day after I received the followed answer:

Thank you for your email.

Please, note that the withdrawal will be released to the last deposit method used successfully.

After a minimum completed deposit via Interac, you'll be able to request the withdrawal by choosing " Last deposit method" on the Withdraw tab.

Well I will make ab min deposit and I will try again in a few days!


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by vengeance77
I contacted the support and 1 day after I received the followed answer:

Thank you for your email.

Please, note that the withdrawal will be released to the last deposit method used successfully.

After a minimum completed deposit via Interac, you'll be able to request the withdrawal by choosing " Last deposit method" on the Withdraw tab.

Well I will make ab min deposit and I will try again in a few days!

This is common.
I signed up to an online walled called "MuchBetter" and tried to withdraw to it from PokerStars -- I got pretty much the same response.

Also be aware that on GGPoker, you will need to meet a wagering requirement before withdrawing a deposit.
I have not been able to determine what the requirement is.

Cheers,
VS


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vengeance77
Joined: 18.04.2010

The wagering requirements aren't so tough, in fact if I remember it well were like 35-40% of the deposit in form of rake. I deposited 50$ in GG and now I have 260 and in wagering related I can withdraw my entire roll easy):. But I remembered now, that in pokerstars if I didn't deposit for more, that 6 month I should make min deposit in order to withdraw! So, I just wanted to test if the withdraw is working properly, because I verified my acc upon registration.
I have 267 in N8 too:)


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vengeance77
Joined: 18.04.2010

There is a new extended poker HUD in GG network, which is pretty cool!

The problem with there HUD so far was, that it was supposed to be on daily basis/refreshes daily/, but I found, that was actually so inaccurate and was something about 20-30h based a.k.a. super inaccurate! So I used so far only my notes!


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Interesting.

Does this one seem any more accurate?


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