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Greatpk was probably referring to natural variance in those sports. E.g. ice hockey has good chunk of luck involved in single match. One team might have control most of time but fails to make goal. Other team gets rare shot toward goal and puck happens to bounce from someone skate and ends in goal. But if same teams play best from 7 or something better team will more likely win in the end.

Poker is about using the situation more effectively and select those situations better than your opponents. Huge edge are often gained especially in small stake by simply understanding preflop hand selection in solid way. Even if postflop is very ABC poker. Sure bad players playing too wide preflop and calling gutshots will more often suckout but they also have chances for that way way more often than solid reg who doesn't even get to those spots. That's also ok and thats what winning players need. Why would recreational player continue playing if they always lost? Variance In poker is reason we play this game for money. I would imagine playing chess for money out of some tournament probably won't work as opponent would have quickly good idea of skill difference.

Basic understanding of game and deep understanding are two very different things. That is also beauty of poker. Read bit of rules and you are ready to play the game and have chance to beat anyone in short term.

Originally posted by vengeance77
[converted_hand][hand_history]Pacific Poker - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

SB: $4.93 (98.6 bb)
BB: $5.48 (109.6 bb)
UTG: $5.00 (100 bb)
CO: $5.07 (101.4 bb) 18/17 f3B100/2 AF 0.5 66h
Hero (BTN): $5.37 (107.4 bb)

SB posts $0.02, BB posts $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has A♣ J♠
fold, CO raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.45, 2 folds, CO calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.97, 2 players) A♠ 7♣ 6♠
CO checks, Hero bets $0.47, CO calls $0.47

Turn: ($1.91, 2 players) 8♥
CO checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.91, 2 players) A♥
CO bets $1.26, Hero folds

Opens 9% from CO!
I though about 25 OTT very very thin, because he is so nitty!
Most prob AQ or AK, could be FH.

It is true, that the sample isn't enough to provide PFI and/or AF accuracy, but we are talking about 11/out of 62 hands raised and in those 11 hands 17PFI/21% ATS, 100% F3B 2/2 and 0.5 AF looks super nutty! + the pools tendencies, that are pretty passive post in general! + folds 2/2 to 3b with such tight looking stats!
+ look at the board! I am 3b as a bluff Preflop, so from that point I don't expect to be called from worst from him!
If I go optimistic I expect him to call me with 88-QQ, ATs+, this is why I bet OTF for thin value vs ATs and pockets! Not sure if he continues with pockets at all OOP in Ah! Lets say optimistically ,that he have TT-QQ with S 9cs and ATs+ 8cs pretty optimistically, he has almost never AT with those stats! I cannot expect to call me 2nd time OTT with his pockets 99-QQ, but 88 and his Ax which are most probably AQs+ if we continue to be pretty optimistic ATs+,88 and even vs such optimistic range we have almost 27%, that makes it pure check OTT!
So OTR what exactly bet 3/4 that we beat with 0.5 AF? We are having 27% equity OTT when we go optimistic
http://www.pokerstrategy.com
Board: As6s7c8hAh
Equity Win Tie
CO 78.57% 71.43% 7.14% { 88, ATs+ }
BU 21.43% 14.29% 7.14% { AcJs }

and he snap bets 3/4 to us with such nutty looking stats when our E is even worst OTR! Well it is actually a pure snap fold;)
If he check again OTR I will go for value!

Originally posted by vengeance77

Originally posted by vengeance77
[converted_hand][hand_history]Pacific Poker - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

SB: $4.93 (98.6 bb)
BB: $5.48 (109.6 bb)
UTG: $5.00 (100 bb)
CO: $5.07 (101.4 bb) 18/17 f3B100/2 AF 0.5 66h
Hero (BTN): $5.37 (107.4 bb)

SB posts $0.02, BB posts $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has A♣ J♠
fold, CO raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.45, 2 folds, CO calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.97, 2 players) A♠ 7♣ 6♠
CO checks, Hero bets $0.47, CO calls $0.47

Turn: ($1.91, 2 players) 8♥
CO checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.91, 2 players) A♥
CO bets $1.26, Hero folds

Opens 9% from CO!
I though about 25 OTT very very thin, because he is so nitty!
Most prob AQ or AK, could be FH.

It is true, that the sample isn't enough to provide PFI and/or AF accuracy, but we are talking about 11/out of 62 hands raised and in those 11 hands 17PFI/21% ATS, 100% F3B 2/2 and 0.5 AF looks super nutty! + the pools tendencies, that are pretty passive post in general! + folds 2/2 to 3b with such tight looking stats!
+ look at the board! I am 3b as a bluff Preflop, so from that point I don't expect to be called from worst from him!
If I go optimistic I expect him to call me with 88-QQ, ATs+, this is why I bet OTF for thin value vs ATs and pockets! Not sure if he continues with pockets at all OOP in Ah! Lets say optimistically ,that he have TT-QQ with S 9cs and ATs+ 8cs pretty optimistically, he has almost never AT with those stats! I cannot expect to call me 2nd time OTT with his pockets 99-QQ, but 88 and his Ax which are most probably AQs+ if we continue to be pretty optimistic ATs+,88 and even vs such optimistic range we have almost 27%, that makes it pure check OTT!
So OTR what exactly bet 3/4 that we beat with 0.5 AF? We are having 27% equity when we go optimistic and he snap bets 3/4 to us
with such nutty looking stats! Well it is actually a pure snap fold;)

First of all he doesn't bet 3/4 but 2/3 (roughly 65%) of the pot OTR so you have higher than 27% equity. Also villain will value bet ATs after being checked back OTT. Checking back Turn is a good play, but folding river isn't. And fold to 3bet stat is pretty much useless here as villain faced 3bet only twice and he could of simply had tried to steal or open with marginal hand that will fold vs a 3bet, so you can't make decisions based on this stat on such a small sample.

Originally posted by greatpk
First of all he doesn't bet 3/4 but 2/3 (roughly 65%) of the pot OTR so you have higher than 27% equity.

What the size have to do with the Equity? Nothing!

we have 27% OTT with AT included and river fevors him , so we are falling to 21% with AT included! And this is the optimistic variant, because he is probably never having AT at all OOP!;) ATs, AJs should be 4bF or F pre OOP what is probably the case and if so we are running to the J OTT with 4% E and we are dead OTR:)

3.5BIs in 300 hands!:facepalm: What happened?

[converted_hand][hand_history]Pacific Poker - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

Hero (BB): $5.82 (116.4 bb)
CO: $5.00 (100 bb)
BTN: $2.20 (44 bb)
SB: $10.65 (213 bb)

SB posts $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has J♠ J♦
fold, BTN calls $0.05, fold, Hero raises to $0.25, BTN calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.52, 2 players) 3♥ A♣ 4♠
Hero bets $0.13, BTN calls $0.13

Turn: ($0.78, 2 players) J♥
Hero bets $0.56, BTN calls $0.56

River: ($1.90, 2 players) 4♥
Hero bets $1.36, BTN calls $1.26 and is all-in

Results: $4.42 pot ($0.22 rake)
Final Board: 3♥ A♣ 4♠ J♥ 4♥

Hero shows J♠ J♦: (Full House, Jacks full of Fours)
(Pre 18%, Flop 1%, Turn 2%)

BTN shows A♦ A♠: (Full House, Aces full of Fours)
(Pre 82%, Flop 99%, Turn 98%)

BTN wins $4.20
[/hand_history][/converted_hand]

[converted_hand][hand_history]Pacific Poker - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

CO: $5.74 (114.8 bb)
BTN: $2.05 (41 bb)
SB: $5.55 (111 bb)
Hero (BB): $5.64 (112.8 bb)
UTG: $2.54 (50.8 bb)
MP: $6.24 (124.8 bb)

SB posts $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has T♥ T♦
2 folds, CO raises to $0.10, BTN calls $0.10, fold, Hero raises to $0.55, fold, BTN calls $0.45

Flop: ($1.22, 2 players) 6♥ 6♣ 2♣
Hero bets $0.87, BTN calls $0.87

Turn: ($2.96, 2 players) 8♦
Hero bets $2.11, BTN calls $0.63 and is all-in

River: ($4.22, 2 players) 9♣

Results: $4.22 pot ($0.21 rake)
Final Board: 6♥ 6♣ 2♣ 8♦ 9♣

BTN shows 8♠ 8♣: (Full House, Eights full of Sixes)
(Pre 19%, Flop 12%, Turn 95%)

Hero shows T♥ T♦: (Two Pair, Tens and Sixes)
(Pre 81%, Flop 88%, Turn 5%)

BTN wins $4.01
[/hand_history][/converted_hand]

[converted_hand][hand_history]Pacific Poker - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

UTG: $3.25 (65 bb)
Hero (MP): $10.26 (205.2 bb)
CO: $1.34 (26.8 bb)
BTN: $4.05 (81 bb)
SB: $4.90 (98 bb)
BB: $5.00 (100 bb)

SB posts $0.02, BB posts $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has K♦ K♣
UTG calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.23, CO raises to $1.34 and is all-in, fold, SB calls $1.32, 2 folds, Hero raises to $10.26 and is all-in, SB calls $3.56 and is all-in

Flop: ($11.24, 3 players) 8♠ 4♣ 5♣

Turn: ($11.24, 3 players) 7♠

River: ($11.24, 3 players) Q♦

Results: $11.24 pot ($0.00 rake)
Final Board: 8♠ 4♣ 5♣ 7♠ Q♦

Hero shows K♦ K♣: (One Pair, Kings)
Main Pot: [$4.12]: (Pre 17%, Flop 10%, Turn 8%)
Side Pot: [$7.12]: (Pre 19%, Flop 10%, Turn 10%)

CO shows Q♥ A♥: (One Pair, Queens)
Main Pot: [$4.12]: (Pre 11%, Flop 2%, Turn 3%)

SB shows A♦ A♣: (One Pair, Aces)
Main Pot: [$4.12]: (Pre 72%, Flop 89%, Turn 89%)
Side Pot: [$7.12]: (Pre 81%, Flop 90%, Turn 90%)

SB wins $6.76
[/hand_history][/converted_hand]

[converted_hand][hand_history]Pacific Poker - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

BB: $5.00 (100 bb)
Hero (CO): $6.19 (123.8 bb)
BTN: $7.29 (145.8 bb)
SB: $1.49 (29.8 bb)

SB posts $0.02, BB posts $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has J♥ A♥
Hero raises to $0.11, BTN calls $0.11, SB calls $0.09, BB calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.44, 4 players) 8♠ Q♣ T♦
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $0.25, SB calls $0.25, fold, Hero calls $0.25

Turn: ($1.19, 3 players) 6♦
SB bets $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, BTN calls $0.25

River: ($1.94, 3 players) K♦
SB bets $0.88 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.88, fold

Results: $3.70 pot ($0.18 rake)
Final Board: 8♠ Q♣ T♦ 6♦ K♦

Hero shows J♥ A♥: (Straight, Ace High)
(Pre 61%, Flop 36%, Turn 18%)

SB shows 9♦ 8♦: (Flush, King High)
(Pre 39%, Flop 64%, Turn 82%)

SB wins $3.52
[/hand_history][/converted_hand]

[converted_hand][hand_history]Pacific Poker - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

BB: $5.23 (104.6 bb)
CO: $5.49 (109.8 bb)
BTN: $0.96 (19.2 bb)
Hero (SB): $5.00 (100 bb)

Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has K♥ A♦
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.30, 2 players) 3♥ K♠ T♠
Hero bets $0.22, BB calls $0.22

Turn: ($0.74, 2 players) 8♥
Hero bets $0.55, BB calls $0.55

River: ($1.84, 2 players) T♦
Hero bets $0.46, BB calls $0.46

Results: $2.76 pot ($0.13 rake)
Final Board: 3♥ K♠ T♠ 8♥ T♦

Hero shows K♥ A♦: (Two Pair, Kings and Tens)
(Pre 64%, Flop 80%, Turn 89%)

BB shows Q♦ T♣: (Three of a Kind, Tens)
(Pre 36%, Flop 20%, Turn 11%)

BB wins $2.63
[/hand_history][/converted_hand]

vs14% 3b
[converted_hand][hand_history]Pacific Poker - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

BB: $5.00 (100 bb)
Hero (UTG): $5.00 (100 bb)
CO: $8.55 (171 bb)
BTN: $5.52 (110.4 bb)
SB: $2.87 (57.4 bb)

SB posts $0.02, BB posts $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has A♥ J♦
Hero raises to $0.12, fold, BTN raises to $0.30, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.97, BTN raises to $5.52 and is all-in, Hero folds

Results: $2.01 pot ($0.00 rake)

BTN wins $2.01
[/hand_history][/converted_hand]

Imagine! How the fck I can be this unlucky?:why:

[converted_hand][hand_history]Pacific Poker - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

BB: $5.77 (115.4 bb) 23/15 3b0/50/ AF 0.8, DonkFlop 0/4/, TurnAgg%23, WTSD 19, WWSF 43 151 hands
Hero (UTG): $6.25 (125 bb)
CO: $9.58 (191.6 bb)
BTN: $5.67 (113.4 bb)
SB: $5.98 (119.6 bb)

SB posts $0.02, BB posts $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has Q♣ Q♠
Hero raises to $0.12, 3 folds, BB raises to $0.48, Hero calls $0.36

Flop: ($0.98, 2 players) 3♠ 9♥ Q♥
BB bets $0.49, Hero raises to $1.52, BB calls $1.03

Turn: ($4.02, 2 players) 2♥
BB SNAP bets $3.77 and is all-in, Hero folds
[/hand_history][/converted_hand]

SO sick! Cannot believe such NIT can do it with KKh+ to justify the call. It is prob always AKh:facepalm:

[converted_hand][hand_history]Pacific Poker - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

BB: $4.63 (92.6 bb)
Hero (CO): $5.64 (112.8 bb)
BTN: $6.20 (124 bb) 48/24 3B12.9, AF 2.6 FCB F/T 56/80 WTSD30, 241h
SB: $3.11 (62.2 bb)

SB posts $0.02, BB posts $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has A♣ 9♥
Hero raises to $0.11, BTN calls $0.11, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.29, 2 players) 7♣ 2♥ J♣
Hero bets $0.19, BTN calls $0.19

Turn: ($0.67, 2 players) T♣
Hero bets $0.50, BTN calls $0.50

River: ($1.67, 2 players) 5♦
Hero checks, BTN checks
[/hand_history][/converted_hand]

888 Freerol 1st hand
https://upswingpoker.com/hand/?pokeit=4a1HJvu4

T9o is a pure fold UTG.

Yup, pretty standard
Nice flop though...

GL to zoom! in zoom you have to be a very good player already if want to profit

game is more complex than you think and there is million way to play it to make profit one example is if blind folding too much, you just steal and do nothing else even with aces or shove all in is better then off course

Mate, the best decision you can make right now is to take a pause from poker. At least a few months. I am looking how you have played many of your lost hands, and you deserved it 100%. Also, considering you believe poker is all about luck, I understand that behind the decisions you make, stands your pure intuition and mood. Thank God, you and such guys exist, and they play poker.

My friend, let's just discuss about poker skills.

The point is, that I read every single comment since page 20, and can say that this guy has exactly the same mentality as I did, not so long time ago. And I know that this might be changed... After grinding a lot, with such an agressive style, after 2-3 months, people are just so sick and tired of bad beats, that their brain can't think clearly. You just don't see what you are missing. You simply can't see it ... You think you are completely right, and you start looking for facts in favour of your thoughts, ignoring other. Unfortunatelly that's exactly how our brain works.

In my case, i was just intuitive that I might be wrong, and someday I'll understand that. I took a pause from poker (not because I realized i need it, but because of my financial status, but nvm..). Meanwhile, I was just watching streams, free lessons, improved my maths, etc. etc. And when I had money for a deposit, I was completely fresh, I forgot what a badbeat is, my mind was clear. I still get 4bet calls with 64o and guy hits his straight on the river, but it's ok for now. That's poker. I am sure that after a month or two, when my memory will fulfill with badbeats, I will start thinking wrong again, and I hope I will still have strength to take a pause again before losing my whole bankroll while tilting. We'll see.

So much bla bla bla.. The point is that I can feel all the struggle of this guy, and I know it is curable. All you need is two simple things:

1. Admitting you are completely wrong. (even if you don't understand why, just admit, time will come and you will understand)

2. Take a pause from poker.

I guarantee it will help.

Well... sounds fair enough... Then, my advice for this guy is "play poker more, and please tell us your nickname"

OFFTOP!

While typing my last comment, I felt like I need to create my own personal blog on this forum)) Feel like it adds you +EV... But my BR is only 40$ at this moment, think I'll wait for at least 200$...

Bunch of trolls!

I am the only person in the bg community to ques by reducing the initial Hero range the the exact poker hand 3 times in a row from hand history with unknown Hero cards!

Besides my blog in a BG community has the most Views! 363 378 Views!

Besides trolling like this how bad someone plays without any proof of that it is only revealing how much you have upstairs and what is your mental status in a pretty negative ways!

Don't you worry! The real life will provide you what you deserve!

Well vengeance77,
I think they are not trolling -- they are actually trying to help.

Months ago I said much the same thing as Shkureonak and NapoleonBonaparte111 and many, many others.

The main point is: Poker is more than luck!
I don't know what site you play on, or what your screen name is, but I guarantee you that the other players know you, and know how your play.

Unless you change, your results won't

For a start, I recommend "The Mental Game of Poker" by Jared Tendler

All the best,
VS

Hey everyone,
Let's not get too harsh or too personal, OK?

Originally posted by NapoleonBonaparte111

The real life will provide you what you deserve

I am sorry Vorpal but this statement shows clearly he wants us dead! The reason? His wounded ego.It's hard not be harsh or too personal!

Although it may be hard not be harsh and personal, please let's keep the forums polite.
For more information see our forum principles.

Cheers,
VS

Men, they are trolls from BG community with countless # of accounts banned for trolling and creating the new ones all the time from years to continue trolling users! Imagine how sick you must be to do that!

Originally posted by vengeance77
Men, they are trolls from BG community with countless # of accounts banned for trolling and creating the new ones all the time from years to continue trolling users! Imagine how sick you must be to do that!

Seems like you are the only person trolling here. If you go back and see how many people have said the same thing, that poker is not just a pure luck game. You are not playing vs house and house makes same profit regardless of who wins the hand, so even if someone wanted to rig a pokersite, it wouldn't make much sense for them to do so. Also you can determine your odds when you get your money in and luck is deciding the outcome only in short term.
Also last few comments do have a point here. Explains why you only post hands where it was a suck out/bad beat. Very likely you're doing that because of your ego problems. You can't admit you have flaws in your game, therefore you are never posting a single hand where you played badly. You can't admit it to your self, so no surprise you can't admit it to others in your blog.
Also you accusing these guys of making new accounts after being banned for trolling, but Shkureonak is a pokerstrategy member since 2010. I would say know your facts, before you come after someone.
I highly advise you to re-think your poker approach, maybe even re-think if you should be playing it in the first place. If you decide to still play, maybe it's time to re-think your blogging approach as well? If you don't want to interact with other people and every advice they give is a ''troll'', perhaps just stop blogging?
I think you need to realize, these people are actually trying to help you improve, not attacking your ego. Once you'll realize you aren't prefect, you aren't playing flawlessly, which is fine, cause we are all humans and we all make mistakes, even the best players in world makes mistakes, then you will understand you need to work and improve on your game. Also keep in mind, it's okay to be wrong and it's okay to make mistakes, but you have to admit your mistakes and learn from them!