Bankroll challenge - up the limits

Originally posted by Shkureonak
So far so good! It's nice to see some1 following the BR management.

I am also playing NL2 at this moment, and tried it out a few NL5 tables. I have the same observations as you metnioned, and think I can do pretty well there. But I feel like I need a bit more of BR to play NL5 than my 50$+.

Good luck at your challenge! Will follow you up!

Imho it is not smart to move up under 30BI if you are not confident that you can beat next limit.
I move down when I am at or under 20BI for that limit. In case of NL5/NL2 it is 100$ which is 50 BI for NL2.
That gives me a lot of flexibility. I can always try and play on one table of NL5 when I feel like it and have few BI over 100$ and I can heal my frustrations at NL2 after I suck out

Thanks for support!
Cheers!

These leaderboards are nice thing!
Just got 50$ for ranking 3rd on NL5 leaderboard yesterday!
I was leading for a while, but some asshole got lucky while I was sleeping

Also got 4$ on NL2 leaderboard.

Good results for leaderboards on "my" limits got me some courage to try higher limits, just for points. Didnt have intention to play there.

I played awfully bad at NL5, but was lucky and had really good cards yesterday, today not even close. NL5 is driving me crazy and I am thinking of saving the money for next limit and skip it

One of my lucky hands yesterday:
PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 161 BB
SB: 102.4 BB
BB: 100 BB
Hero (UTG): 159 BB
MP: 118.8 BB
CO: 101.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K♦ K♠

Hero raises to 3 BB, MP raises to 10 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 31.4 BB, MP raises to 118.8 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 87.4 BB

Flop: (239 BB, 2 players) 5♣ A♥ Q♦

Turn: (239 BB, 2 players) T♥

River: (239 BB, 2 players) J♥

NL 10 - my bad play yesterday and today. Should respect raises more.

Started quite good:
PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 110 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 125.1 BB
CO: 93.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J♦ J♠

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BB raises to 12 BB, Hero calls 9 BB

Flop: (24.5 BB, 2 players) 3♣ 5♦ 9♦
BB bets 10.7 BB, Hero raises to 33.1 BB, BB calls 22.4 BB

Turn: (90.7 BB, 2 players) 2♥
BB checks, Hero bets 54.9 BB and is all-in, BB calls 54.9 BB and is all-in

River: (200.5 BB, 2 players) K♣

but encouraged by initial results, I started making mistakes:
PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 121.5 BB
SB: 192.6 BB
BB: 339.6 BB
UTG: 100 BB
Hero (MP): 100.5 BB
CO: 474.8 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7♥ 6♥

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 2♠ 4♣ 5♥
BB bets 6.2 BB, Hero calls 6.2 BB

Turn: (18.9 BB, 2 players) 7♦
BB bets 18 BB, Hero calls 18 BB

River: (54.9 BB, 2 players) 2♦
BB bets 52.4 BB, Hero calls 52.4 BB

Just didnt want to believe in obvious

NL16 - played very tight, won few pots. Quite happy with my game.

PokerStars - $0.16 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 220.81 BB
SB: 104.06 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 71.69 BB
MP: 101.5 BB
CO: 108.75 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8♦ 8♣

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 6♠ 7♥ T♥
Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 6♥
Hero bets 3.13 BB, UTG calls 3.13 BB

River: (12.75 BB, 2 players) 8♠
Hero bets 12.19 BB, UTG raises to 48.75 BB, Hero raises to 93.88 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 16.81 BB and is all-in

NL25 I was very cautious and respectful to my bankroll. Didnt want to get involved in many pots, tried to steal few blinds. My goal was to lose less than 17,5 $, price to pay in blinds for 300 hands needed to complete the leaderboard task.
Would have ended that in green if there wasnt one unnecessary call from my side:
PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 119.16 BB
BB: 115.84 BB
UTG: 105.72 BB
MP: 115.72 BB
CO: 101.8 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J♦ A♦

UTG raises to 2.48 BB, MP calls 2.48 BB, fold, Hero calls 2.48 BB, fold, BB raises to 15 BB, UTG calls 12.52 BB, fold, Hero calls 12.52 BB

Flop: (47.88 BB, 3 players) J♣ 8♥ K♣
BB bets 15.08 BB, fold, fold

Also had one nice hand there:
PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 75.48 BB
SB: 103.04 BB
BB: 382.04 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 205.36 BB
Hero (CO): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 8♠ 8♣

fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (7.4 BB, 2 players) J♣ 8♥ Q♦
Hero bets 4 BB, BTN calls 4 BB

Turn: (15.4 BB, 2 players) 7♦
Hero bets 8 BB, BTN calls 8 BB

River: (31.4 BB, 2 players) Q♠
Hero bets 16 BB, BTN calls 16 BB

Maybe I could have extracted more value from that hand, but I will leave that for analysis when the time comes

All together I am quite satisfied with my performance on higher limits except that damn NL5

Now I am thinking about going for those 300 hands again on NL25 but today's results are not so encouraging

Current bankroll:164 $

Cheers!

Yo, sadly the leaderboards are over, it's spin 'n go now!
I will send you friend request so I can send you a private message with my stars nickname, don't want to post it here.

Originally posted by Stackoffski
Yo, sadly the leaderboards are over, it's spin 'n go now!

Actually they are still running.
I guess that they are not available to everyone all the time.

For real? They're cutting me out? ♠_frown: ♠_evil:

Those sons of fishes!!!

Couldnt resist the leaderboard call for NL25, played 300 hands for 17th place. Probably 30th till morning, but that is fine.
Also won some money in the process ♠_cool:
Actually cashed out, lucky river exists in NL25 too ♦

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 187.84 BB
SB: 118.32 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 89.12 BB
Hero (MP): 133.56 BB
CO: 26.28 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q♣ Q♠

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, SB raises to 16 BB, fold, Hero calls 13 BB, CO raises to 26.28 BB and is all-in, fold, SB calls 10.28 BB, Hero calls 10.28 BB

Flop: (82.84 BB, 3 players) 6♦ 8♠ 2♦
SB bets 43.52 BB, Hero raises to 107.28 BB and is all-in, SB calls 48.52 BB and is all-in

Turn: (266.92 BB, 3 players) T♦

River: (266.92 BB, 3 players) 8♦

Hero cashed out 212.64 BB for a fee of 2.16 BB

Total winnings in NL25 today: 34$

Current bankroll: 202$

Originally posted by Stackoffski
For real? They're cutting me out? ♠_frown: ♠_evil:

Those sons of fishes!!!

They are evil sometimes ♦

Well I guess after setting the price of bronze box at 5950 points, that was the only way to get some rakeback from them.
They owe me

Wednesday was a good day for poker!

First I got 25$ from leaderboards

And then I got another chance to compete, won few $$ while playing

Also played few hands on my phone, finished the day with 275$ on my bankroll

It wasnt smooth ride though.
NL2-nl10 was fine, didnt make big mistakes and did allright. Not completely happy, but satisfied with my performance.
NL16 was ok, had one hand where I cashed out to protect my investment and it was good decision

PokerStars - $0.16 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 129.38 BB
SB: 154.25 BB
BB: 117.5 BB
Hero (UTG): 231.44 BB
MP: 125.69 BB
CO: 155.13 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♠ A♣

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BTN raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 231.44 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 121.38 BB and is all-in

Flop: (260.25 BB, 2 players) 9♠ T♣ 3♠

Turn: (260.25 BB, 2 players) Q♠

River: (260.25 BB, 2 players) K♦

Hero cashed out 201.56 BB for a fee of 2.06 BB

NL25 was hard tonight

Relaxed after initial success and ran into this

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 97.92 BB
SB: 100.4 BB
Hero (BB): 144.2 BB
UTG: 106.28 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 121.48 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♠ 9♠

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3.4 BB, SB calls 3 BB, Hero calls 2.4 BB

Flop: (10.2 BB, 3 players) T♦ 4♠ 3♠
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (10.2 BB, 3 players) T♠
SB checks, Hero bets 5 BB, BTN raises to 10 BB, fold, Hero calls 5 BB

River: (30.2 BB, 2 players) K♦
Hero checks, BTN bets 28.8 BB, Hero calls 28.8 BB

and this:

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 235.36 BB
BB: 181.6 BB
UTG: 118.08 BB
MP: 298.96 BB
Hero (CO): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♥ A♦

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, fold, MP calls 6 BB

Flop: (19.4 BB, 2 players) 8♠ 7♥ 6♣
MP checks, Hero bets 10 BB, MP calls 10 BB

Turn: (39.4 BB, 2 players) 4♦
MP checks, Hero bets 20 BB, MP calls 20 BB

River: (79.4 BB, 2 players) 6♦
MP checks, Hero checks

And i wasnt focused on the game anymore, was thinking about what was I supposed to do better and started playing on autopilot .
When I am not focused on my game, it leads to spectacular mistakes as this one:

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 48.12 BB
BB: 100.48 BB
UTG: 136.8 BB
MP: 44.48 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♥ 2♥

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, SB calls 2.6 BB, fold, UTG calls 2 BB

Flop: (10 BB, 3 players) A♣ J♣ A♠
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 9.56 BB, SB calls 9.56 BB, UTG calls 9.56 BB

Turn: (38.68 BB, 3 players) Q♦
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 87.44 BB and is all-in, fold, UTG calls 87.44 BB

River: (213.56 BB, 2 players) 3♠

UTG cashed out 198.92 BB for a fee of 2 BB

And that was the point where my hopes fell apart, I started playing NL25 only because of that leaderboard and all I wanted was to try and break even during those 300 hands but at this point I was 3BI down and completely shattered.
Any smart person would give up at this point, but I didn't.
Made a short break, got some air, focused and started playing NL25 again. What can be hard there, it is poker
Bet when you have good odds, fold when you dont have

I got good opportunity to start winning at this spot and I was so much ahead that I didnt even think about cashing this out:

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 102.32 BB
BB: 105.6 BB
UTG: 408.92 BB
MP: 54.44 BB
CO: 239.88 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K♠ A♣

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 6 BB

Flop: (18.4 BB, 2 players) T♣ 9♣ A♠
BB checks, Hero bets 17.56 BB, BB calls 17.56 BB

Turn: (53.52 BB, 2 players) 3♥
BB checks, Hero bets 73.44 BB and is all-in, BB calls 73.44 BB

River: (200.4 BB, 2 players) 5♣

Players agreed to run it twice.

River #2: (200.4 BB, 2 players) Q♠

Yeah, we were running it twice

Well after that moment I somehow managed to stay calm, patient and focused and actually won few good hands:

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 129.72 BB
Hero (SB): 115.6 BB
BB: 93 BB
UTG: 111.08 BB
MP: 136.68 BB
CO: 106.96 BB

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J♣ T♣

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.48 BB, Hero calls 2.08 BB, fold

Flop: (5.96 BB, 2 players) Q♣ 9♣ 4♣
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (5.96 BB, 2 players) T♥
Hero bets 5.68 BB, BTN calls 5.68 BB

River: (17.32 BB, 2 players) K♣
Hero bets 107.44 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 107.44 BB

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 292.84 BB
SB: 110.64 BB
BB: 132.16 BB
UTG: 123.8 BB
MP: 113.12 BB
Hero (CO): 223.04 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has T♣ J♣

fold, MP calls 1 BB, Hero calls 1 BB, fold, SB raises to 5.6 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 4.6 BB

Flop: (13.2 BB, 2 players) Q♣ 6♣ 4♦
SB bets 12.36 BB, Hero calls 12.36 BB

Turn: (37.92 BB, 2 players) 7♣
SB bets 26.8 BB, Hero raises to 205.08 BB and is all-in, SB calls 65.88 BB and is all-in

River: (223.28 BB, 2 players) 7♥

Players agreed to run it twice.

River #2: (223.28 BB, 2 players) J♥

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 116.2 BB
SB: 100 BB
BB: 101 BB
UTG: 203 BB
MP: 124.88 BB
Hero (CO): 314.64 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♣ A♥

fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BB raises to 12 BB, Hero raises to 314.64 BB and is all-in, BB calls 89 BB and is all-in

Flop: (202.4 BB, 2 players) 3♠ 8♠ 3♥

Turn: (202.4 BB, 2 players) J♠

River: (202.4 BB, 2 players) 5♣

Players agreed to run it twice.

Flop #2: (202.4 BB, 2 players) 8♣ 9♦ 7♥

Turn #2: (202.4 BB, 2 players) 7♣

River #2: (202.4 BB, 2 players) 5♦

Had luck to have good cards and someone to call that, but what is actually fun is the fact that when you bet more, people call more.
When I try to play balanced with 70%-pot size bets people fold because they figure that I have better hand. When I bet big, oversized...they think that I am bluffing

Anyway, that last hand was a shock at the turn but it went well.
Finished my NL25 session after that. It was not smart decision to continue playing after everything that happened before but it went well and I am happy to break even on NL25

Anyway, new day just started and it is time to build my bankroll for NL10 finally

Cheers!

Wow!
Pretty good day!

Hey! Nice cash from leaderboards. I am not so lucky with hands dealt. I participated more than 10 days, and won only 1$ totally. And I am allways wondering what types of hands do people get (1st-3rd places). Every third hand is AA or KK? How do you get so many points?

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
Wow!
Pretty good day!

Almost perfect

Originally posted by Shkureonak
Hey! Nice cash from leaderboards. I am not so lucky with hands dealt. I participated more than 10 days, and won only 1$ totally. And I am allways wondering what types of hands do people get (1st-3rd places). Every third hand is AA or KK? How do you get so many points?

That first day on NL5, yes ♦
I think every third hand was QQ or better ♦
Suited connectors, broadways and pocket pairs are good points. Also you can follow your progress, over 6000 points you are ITM on almost every leaderboard except NL16. So if you have less than 1000 points after 50 hands or less than 3000 after 150 hands, there is not much chance to win.
Yesterday I dont know if I had 2x AA on all 5 leaderboards, but still managed to get some money

Won 165,08 $! Which makes my leaderboard cash almost 250$ total in 3 days!!!

I am thinking of buying lottery ticket

Crushing NL25, NL16 and NL2 atm and struggling at NL5 and NL10. Poker, not leaderboards

Will post results soon

Cheers!

Wow! Nice catch!!

After couple of good days where I climbed up to 450$ at some point, again I fall down
It began yesterday evening, while I was running good, winning at all stakes except that damn NL5

I was playing NL10, really happy with my performance, even reading some bluffs for big pots:

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 131.9 BB
SB: 122.1 BB
BB: 105.4 BB
Hero (UTG): 175.5 BB
MP: 198.5 BB
CO: 114.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9♣ A♣

Hero raises to 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, SB raises to 13.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 10.5 BB, MP calls 10.5 BB, BTN calls 10.5 BB

Flop: (55 BB, 4 players) 9♥ 3♣ T♠
SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, BTN checks

Turn: (55 BB, 4 players) 5♠
SB bets 24.5 BB, Hero calls 24.5 BB, MP calls 24.5 BB, fold

River: (128.5 BB, 3 players) 4♦
SB bets 84.1 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 84.1 BB, fold

♠_cool:

I was so happy

But then it started, I got beaten by flush:

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 179.6 BB
SB: 255.6 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 25.1 BB
MP: 97 BB
CO: 110.6 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K♣ A♣

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, MP calls 6 BB

Flop: (19.5 BB, 2 players) 9♦ 3♣ A♦
MP checks, Hero bets 14 BB, MP calls 14 BB

Turn: (47.5 BB, 2 players) J♦
MP checks, Hero bets 25 BB, MP raises to 74 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 49 BB

River: (195.5 BB, 2 players) Q♠

And this was the trigger. I mean who is calling 3bet OOP with QTs???
That killed me, seriously. Couldnt focus on game, but instead of making a break and getting some air I kept playing on tilt.
Thing is, I know that I can beat NL10 and when I focus and play as I should, everything goes smooth and I am doing good.
But when I am result oriented, chasing money....I run onto hands like this:

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 368.3 BB
SB: 161.9 BB
Hero (BB): 221.9 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 165.3 BB
CO: 113.9 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T♠ T♣

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, SB raises to 10 BB, Hero calls 9 BB, BTN calls 7 BB

Flop: (30 BB, 3 players) 4♥ 7♦ 9♦
SB checks, Hero bets 28.6 BB, BTN calls 28.6 BB, fold

Turn: (87.2 BB, 2 players) 2♥
Hero bets 83.3 BB, BTN calls 83.3 BB

River: (253.8 BB, 2 players) 8♥
Hero bets 100 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 100 BB

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 110.5 BB
SB: 103.3 BB
BB: 122.8 BB
Hero (UTG): 333.5 BB
MP: 197.1 BB
CO: 163.9 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K♦ K♣

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB, fold, SB calls 2.5 BB, fold

Flop: (10 BB, 3 players) 2♣ Q♥ 7♠
SB checks, Hero bets 6 BB, CO raises to 17.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 11.5 BB

Turn: (45 BB, 2 players) J♥
Hero checks, CO bets 143.4 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 143.4 BB

River: (331.8 BB, 2 players) 6♦

CO cashed out 299.4 BB for a fee of 3 BB

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 121.4 BB
SB: 123 BB
Hero (BB): 109.1 BB
UTG: 101 BB
MP: 135.8 BB
CO: 45 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♥ Q♠

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 9.5 BB, MP raises to 16 BB, Hero calls 6.5 BB

Flop: (32.5 BB, 2 players) 4♣ 2♠ 9♠
Hero bets 93.1 BB and is all-in, MP calls 93.1 BB

Turn: (218.7 BB, 2 players) 8♣

River: (218.7 BB, 2 players) 3♦

Classic

Anyway, today my bad run on NL10 continued.
Also ran into some coolers on NL25:

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 55.52 BB
SB: 113.2 BB
BB: 106.16 BB
UTG: 101.16 BB
MP: 173.84 BB
Hero (CO): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 8♥ 8♠

UTG raises to 2.4 BB, fold, Hero calls 2.4 BB, fold, fold, BB raises to 10 BB, UTG calls 7.6 BB, Hero calls 7.6 BB

Flop: (30.4 BB, 3 players) T♥ 8♦ 7♠
BB checks, UTG bets 10.52 BB, Hero raises to 60.6 BB, BB raises to 96.16 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 80.64 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 29.4 BB and is all-in

Turn: (302.72 BB, 3 players) K♣

River: (302.72 BB, 3 players) 3♦

And this one, that hurts the most:

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 141 BB
SB: 63.64 BB
BB: 102.4 BB
UTG: 219.64 BB
Hero (MP): 170.44 BB
CO: 22.28 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♠ 7♠

UTG raises to 2.4 BB, Hero calls 2.4 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (6.2 BB, 2 players) K♥ 7♦ A♥
UTG bets 4 BB, Hero raises to 10.96 BB, UTG calls 6.96 BB

Turn: (28.12 BB, 2 players) 2♠
UTG checks, Hero bets 16 BB, UTG raises to 44.6 BB, Hero calls 28.6 BB

River: (117.32 BB, 2 players) 3♣
UTG bets 161.68 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 112.48 BB and is all-in

Lesson learned...I hope

Well after that I got some air, finished today's leader board challenges with no success. Maybe I will get a dollar in the morning.
I mean all of the money I got from leader boards and shouldnt be complaining, had 100$ at the beginning of the week.
But that doesnt mean that I should just throw it away.

Read some articles, watched some videos...will play poker again.
Currently my BR is at 250$, will continue playing NL10. If I get to 320$, will play NL16 and if I fall down to 150, NL5 is all mine

I might even punish myself for stupidity and go grindin NL2 till I get to 750$

What can I say, another ordinary day at the poker tables. Will work on my volume a bit more and try to analyse stats after I reach decent number of hands.

Cheers!

That's some aggressive bankrollmanagement for sure! Well, as long as you can hit the breaks in time, take that breath, reset your mind and go to the lower limits grind again.

You say you can beat nl10 if you focus, and I bet that's true. But we need to see that the mental aspect is part of the game, not something outside of the game. So I mean if you play NL10 but are not on top of it enough and lose because of that, then you are not really beating NL10 yet. Maybe not because you are unable to strategy-wise, but mental-wise you lack. If you beat them strategy-wise and mental-wise stay focussed during downswing you can crush the game. But if you crush them strategy-wise you can still lose all that and more very quickly if you lack something mentally.

We really need to see this as a longer term thing. Short term results are blah and they are our enemy. And if the influence your game that's not good. But if you play the higher stakes and lose it's very very hard to not care I think. You probably still play fine if you lose a buyin or two at nl2 because you are rolled for it (I will say nothing about NL5 :f_mad:).

We can do this, but it will take some time. That's very frustating if you think you can beat higher limits already but are not rolled for it. Then it's hard to grind it out until you are. Patience my friend, patience!!

We will take all their monies!!

Hey miropro!

You posted some interesting hands and I am curious, what was your thought proccess in some of them.

Originally posted by miropro
PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 368.3 BB
SB: 161.9 BB
Hero (BB): 221.9 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 165.3 BB
CO: 113.9 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T♠ T♣

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, SB raises to 10 BB, Hero calls 9 BB, BTN calls 7 BB

Flop: (30 BB, 3 players) 4♥ 7♦ 9♦
SB checks, Hero bets 28.6 BB, BTN calls 28.6 BB, fold

Turn: (87.2 BB, 2 players) 2♥
Hero bets 83.3 BB, BTN calls 83.3 BB

River: (253.8 BB, 2 players) 8♥
Hero bets 100 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 100 BB

Spoiler

Hero shows T♠ T♣ (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 68%, Flop 75%, Turn 68%)
BTN shows 9♥ A♥ (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 32%, Flop 25%, Turn 32%)
BTN wins 438.8 BB

Don't really like your coldcall preflop. SB most of the time is very wide vs BU open, especially with that small size. Why don't you go for a cold 4bet here? You ahead against SBvsBU 3bet range, something like this:

       Equity     Win     Tie
SB     44.97%  44.39%   0.58% { 88+, A8s+, A5s-A4s, KJs+, QJs, JTs, T9s, 98s, ATo+, KJo+ }
BB     55.03%  54.44%   0.58% { TT }

Originally posted by miropro
PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 110.5 BB
SB: 103.3 BB
BB: 122.8 BB
Hero (UTG): 333.5 BB
MP: 197.1 BB
CO: 163.9 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K♦ K♣

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB, fold, SB calls 2.5 BB, fold

Flop: (10 BB, 3 players) 2♣ Q♥ 7♠
SB checks, Hero bets 6 BB, CO raises to 17.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 11.5 BB

Turn: (45 BB, 2 players) J♥
Hero checks, CO bets 143.4 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 143.4 BB

River: (331.8 BB, 2 players) 6♦

CO cashed out 299.4 BB for a fee of 3 BB

Spoiler

Hero shows K♦ K♣ (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 82%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
CO shows 2♠ 2♦ (Three of a Kind, Twos)
(Pre 18%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)

On the micros they don't raise cbets very often, so their range will be value heavy. OTF flop I wouldn't fold as well, but on the turn. Have you seen him bluffing with 3x pot size before? Or what is the reason you are going broke 164bb deep against his very agressive line with only one pair?

Originally posted by miropro
PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 121.4 BB
SB: 123 BB
Hero (BB): 109.1 BB
UTG: 101 BB
MP: 135.8 BB
CO: 45 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♥ Q♠

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 9.5 BB, MP raises to 16 BB, Hero calls 6.5 BB

Flop: (32.5 BB, 2 players) 4♣ 2♠ 9♠
Hero bets 93.1 BB and is all-in, MP calls 93.1 BB

Turn: (218.7 BB, 2 players) 8♣

River: (218.7 BB, 2 players) 3♦

Spoiler

Hero shows Q♥ Q♠ (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 18%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
MP shows A♦ A♠ (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 82%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
MP wins 208.9 BB

Were you on tilt in this one?

Originally posted by miropro
PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 55.52 BB
SB: 113.2 BB
BB: 106.16 BB
UTG: 101.16 BB
MP: 173.84 BB
Hero (CO): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 8♥ 8♠

UTG raises to 2.4 BB, fold, Hero calls 2.4 BB, fold, fold, BB raises to 10 BB, UTG calls 7.6 BB, Hero calls 7.6 BB

Flop: (30.4 BB, 3 players) T♥ 8♦ 7♠
BB checks, UTG bets 10.52 BB, Hero raises to 60.6 BB, BB raises to 96.16 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 80.64 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 29.4 BB and is all-in

Turn: (302.72 BB, 3 players) K♣

River: (302.72 BB, 3 players) 3♦

Spoiler

BB shows A♣ A♠ (One Pair, Aces)

Main Pot [300.4 BB]: (Pre 66%, Flop 10%, Turn 5%)
Side Pot#1 [2.32 BB]: (Pre 80%, Flop 11%, Turn 5%)

UTG shows T♦ T♣ (Three of a Kind, Tens)

Main Pot [300.4 BB]: (Pre 18%, Flop 84%, Turn 93%)
Side Pot#1 [2.32 BB]: (Pre 20%, Flop 89%, Turn 95%)

Hero shows 8♥ 8♠ (Three of a Kind, Eights)

Main Pot [300.4 BB]: (Pre 16%, Flop 6%, Turn 2%)

UTG wins 294.72 BB

What is the reason behind raising 6x multiway on wet board? If you raise that big, why do you leave 36bb in front of you instead of just shoving?
I would prefer to raise to 30bb here and fold for push. It is tough, but after BB 3bets you and UTG calls, you can be sure you are not the favorite. TBH you are lucky if you have 7 outs against a straight and not only 2 against a bigger set.

Originally posted by Stackoffski
That's some aggressive bankrollmanagement for sure! Well, as long as you can hit the breaks in time, take that breath, reset your mind and go to the lower limits grind again.

You say you can beat nl10 if you focus, and I bet that's true. But we need to see that the mental aspect is part of the game, not something outside of the game. So I mean if you play NL10 but are not on top of it enough and lose because of that, then you are not really beating NL10 yet. Maybe not because you are unable to strategy-wise, but mental-wise you lack. If you beat them strategy-wise and mental-wise stay focussed during downswing you can crush the game. But if you crush them strategy-wise you can still lose all that and more very quickly if you lack something mentally.

We really need to see this as a longer term thing. Short term results are blah and they are our enemy. And if the influence your game that's not good. But if you play the higher stakes and lose it's very very hard to not care I think. You probably still play fine if you lose a buyin or two at nl2 because you are rolled for it (I will say nothing about NL5 :f_mad:).

We can do this, but it will take some time. That's very frustating if you think you can beat higher limits already but are not rolled for it. Then it's hard to grind it out until you are. Patience my friend, patience!!

We will take all their monies!!

Oh I will just skip to NL2 right away for couple of days, until I find myself again.
I have to admit that I am playing on tilt since yesterday evening and just cant make right decisions at the table.
Whatever I did in game today, good or bad, ended up with me losing the pot or with split pot at best.
I think best idea is to move down the limits until this downswing passes

Thanks for support my friend, patience is all I need now!

Originally posted by LahtiPelican

Don't really like your coldcall preflop. SB most of the time is very wide vs BU open, especially with that small size. Why don't you go for a cold 4bet here? You ahead against SBvsBU 3bet range, something like this:

       Equity     Win     Tie
SB     44.97%  44.39%   0.58% { 88+, A8s+, A5s-A4s, KJs+, QJs, JTs, T9s, 98s, ATo+, KJo+ }
BB     55.03%  54.44%   0.58% { TT }

I usually do, have no idea why I did that. Wasn't thinking rationally.
OTF I figured he has flushdraw, but my guess were diamonds. After he kept calling, thought he has something like Ad4d and hoping for 2nd pair or a flush. They usually fold OTT after such large bet. Anyway, when I saw that there is no diamond OTR, I was happy. For about 3 seconds

Originally posted by LahtiPelican

On the micros they don't raise cbets very often, so their range will be value heavy. OTF flop I wouldn't fold as well, but on the turn. Have you seen him bluffing with 3x pot size before? Or what is the reason you are going broke 164bb deep against his very agressive line with only one pair?

They do, they raise cbet with TPTK often and go broke, but not that deep. But I usually dont do that, at that point I was already frustrated with everything that was going on and just wanted him to fold. Honestly, if that happened 3 days earlier I would go for pot control with smaller bets and fold OTT. But I remember myself at this point thinking something like "oh, fuck he got his second pair...I should fold...nevermind"

Seriously, you dont want to know my thought process there

Originally posted by LahtiPelican
Were you on tilt in this one?

Oh, I was on tilt with all of those hands
I am still on tilt and that is why I will play NL2 for a while
I mean, there is a reason for not posting any of those hands in hand discussion forum. I know that I was playing worse than any recreational player.
It is easy to find an excuse in tilt while I am actually supposed to study more about current strategies and stay away from the tables until I calm down and start thinking normaly.

Originally posted by LahtiPelican

What is the reason behind raising 6x multiway on wet board? If you raise that big, why do you leave 36bb in front of you instead of just shoving?
I would prefer to raise to 30bb here and fold for push. It is tough, but after BB 3bets you and UTG calls, you can be sure you are not the favorite. TBH you are lucky if you have 7 outs against a straight and not only 2 against a bigger set.

Well from my experience on NL25, they are much more cautios about investing money in 3bet pot. TPTK or two pairs often win the pot, sets are jackpot. Also bluffs and semibluffs can keep you in the game. I mean that is my observation after maybe 3k hands, of course that there are all sorts of players as everywhere.

For BB I was positive about him having QQ+, he would be OOP OTF and considering that we are unknown I dont expect him to 3bet light there.
Same goes for UTG, dont expect him to RFI with one gapper and call 3bet (J9 is flopped straight) so I put him on strong pair or strong suited connectors as AK,KQ or something around that range.
I eliminated each of them having J9 which leaves only one combo better than me - TT and I considererd that very unlikely. I think that the odds of set being beaten by stronger set are something like 1:200.
It was pot size raise I think, clicked wrong button. Even though sometimes I do that on purpose to make them shove, looks as I have no clue what I am doing, goes well with the 22 badge that I carry
My plan was to shove OTF and cash out if they have any combo that I dont like.
Unfortunately, he had TT and rest is history

As you can see, I take NL25 much more serious than NL10 and lower limits and if my approach to NL10 would be same as to NL25, results would be way better. I play NL10 as NL2 instead and that is why I am where I am at the moment.

Thanks for your comment LahtiPelican!
Hope to hear more from you!

I was reading your blog earlier today, bookmarked the link for the no limit course by confidant91, will go through it during next period.

I know that my knowledge is rusted and good results on almost all limits made me relaxed completely and that is not the way to play on Pokerstars. Competition is hard and they will punish every mistake. But that is how we win in poker - by exploiting our opponent's mistakes, right?

Cheers!

Take a little time off if you need to ... but don't be afraid to play again ... I know that can happen too. Not playing because you're afraid to make mistakes.

Just come play nl2 until your mind is right. Well not if you are going to steam of course. But if you feel like you want to play but are afraid to, just do it it'll be allright. Well, you can lose $2 or a few times $2 at most. Otherwise I will take all their monies and when you come there will be only empty tables!

We all need to change some things about our game, especially us playing at the ini-mini-limits probably. Seeing what you need to change is the first step I guess. How to stay in your A or B -game ... well if you are not playing well anymore, just take a break immediately. However short. With zoom you can play very short sessions. I often do that. Play some, sit out, browse the internet or get some coffee or whatever, resume play.

Originally posted by Stackoffski
Take a little time off if you need to ... but don't be afraid to play again ... I know that can happen too. Not playing because you're afraid to make mistakes.

Just come play nl2 until your mind is right. Well not if you are going to steam of course. But if you feel like you want to play but are afraid to, just do it it'll be allright. Well, you can lose $2 or a few times $2 at most. Otherwise I will take all their monies and when you come there will be only empty tables!

We all need to change some things about our game, especially us playing at the ini-mini-limits probably. Seeing what you need to change is the first step I guess. How to stay in your A or B -game ... well if you are not playing well anymore, just take a break immediately. However short. With zoom you can play very short sessions. I often do that. Play some, sit out, browse the internet or get some coffee or whatever, resume play.

Oh, I am not afraid to play.
I cracked completely at Saturday, ran into better full house
Made few rage all-ins after that

Dont get me wrong, I do understand that poker is not only winning and there will be plenty of ups and downs in the future.
And I am not going to quit. And I stand behind my words, when I am at 100% I can beat micros. Even with my limited knowledge.
What happened this weekend was 90% my fault, playing while I am at 50% and less. Being tired, tilted and not focused on game cost me a lot of money. Or nothing, depends how you look at it. Because all I lost was bonus money from leader boards. But I gained a lot of experience during past few days and it will be useful in the future.
I am slowly building up my BR and reading strategy articles, have few interesting hands to post in forum for evaluation...
During these 7 days I played 5k hands per day on average. From NL2 to NL25. And I found some leaks in my game, as not defending the blinds enough and folding to turn and river bets a lot. Will have to fix those. Atm I am focused on my preflop game.

But today is a new day.

Thanks for support Stackoffski!

Wow you played a lot! my weekgoal is 5K hands :f_tongue:. I play more, but still ...

Interesting to go through Pokertracker then yes.

And I found some leaks in my game, as not defending the blinds enough and folding to turn and river bets a lot.

I had the complete opposite haha.