Omaha clicking, Project 2026

Well you are rarely more than 55-65% favourite on preflop alllin. Except when getting in with e.g. AAxx Vs AKKx where it will be bit over 70%.

Biggest edge comes at least in these games from preflop hand selection. Pool play way too many hands and often with passive lines. Meaning they won't win pots as often as there is less possibility for it preflop. Also hands they play often for multiway pots are not really suitable ones. Meaning having nut potential. Preflop poor hand selection then reflects heavily into postflop.

Tables with lot of multiway pots you can't really get too much out of line postflop as often someone has hit and likely continues. But with better build ranges you will get into spots where you have better sets, better two pairs and better draws. Those are moments where money can get in way ahead.

3bet game especially is really heavily build around choosing solid ranges. Often in them SPR is on low side on flop and money goes often in. So when some of even reggy players choose to 3bet so called raggy double suited hands they will in long run run into spots where they are too often dominated. Same happens when calling 3bets and 4bets way too wide.

Originally posted by ghaleon
Yeah I love to live in place like this. No noise around. Nearest neighbor is like 200m away and next one from that basically almost 500m. We have lot of different plants and bushes growing. I have to probably cheat with dictionary for English names but...

- Strawberries
- Redcurrants
- Blackcurrants
- Raspberries
- Gooseberries
- Sea buckthorns
- Apples
- Pears
- Highbush blueberries
- Ton of flowers (which names I have no idea about...)

That was probably all. Though pear trees and blueberries have not been doing that great. Also sea buckthorns produced like 12kg this year when usual crop has been more like 30-40kg. Probably heat wave was too much.

Sorry for quoting such an older post - but happy to see insights here. I am remembering Mantelo also searching for such a place in his home country (Estonia).
Happy if next to poker content i'd also see a nice jealousy-inducing picture series from your farm!

thanks i get it a bit about plo now. so i could just go to plo2 play aggressive and correct and win. and maybe pick some bluff spots on turn and river depending on opponents?

Originally posted by ghaleon
Well you are rarely more than 55-65% favourite on preflop alllin. Except when getting in with e.g. AAxx Vs AKKx where it will be bit over 70%.

Biggest edge comes at least in these games from preflop hand selection. Pool play way too many hands and often with passive lines. Meaning they won't win pots as often as there is less possibility for it preflop. Also hands they play often for multiway pots are not really suitable ones. Meaning having nut potential. Preflop poor hand selection then reflects heavily into postflop.

Tables with lot of multiway pots you can't really get too much out of line postflop as often someone has hit and likely continues. But with better build ranges you will get into spots where you have better sets, better two pairs and better draws. Those are moments where money can get in way ahead.

This is even more true in PLO8. It is easy to fall into the trap of entering mw-pots OOP just because you have 9:1 pot odds, and hope to hit and hold.
It is much better long-term to hold out and enter those pots with hands that can possibly achieve nut-nut

Pfff man what session. Start was ok and I went up 200€ or so but then nothing went my way. Plus there was some maniacs that run like gods with solid approach of piling money in with trash preflop and hitting. In the end I had to quit after hitting 600€ down mark on the session.

Last 50€ down was AAxx Vs AAxx where I hit trips on some KK6r and villain made runner runner straight. It was preflop all-in anyway but lost another buyin in other table at same time with other AAxx in 4bet spot after villain Axxx improved with one pair and fd on flop. Then I look back to table where I hit trips and notice I lost that also... Time I decided to click sit out all tables.

Most absurd hand was one where I got practically 5way all-in with AA33ss. I think flop was KQ9 or something like that and funnily enough after we went all-in with remaining 10€ or so with two other players I actually had best hand... Best hand with AA33 no fd or bd fd in KQ9 versus 4 players... None of them had card higher than T but some T965ss got straight.

But yeah this session right after I had some bit profitable ones in good while. I feel preeeetty crushed...

I can see you need to take a breath then ... PLO is so swingy ... I can imagine PLO50 is pretty aggressive, a lot of all-ins vs Holdem probably... man, you need strong nerves and a long-term view to play that game ... hard to not look at the short term results after losing this.

But ... you'll get your mind right again and put your fighting gear back on very soon ... hard to imagine otherwise ... you know you will win if you play well... good luck next sessions!

Well good idea or not I ended to two table on mobile app for moment. Played HU versus one of maniac opponents and man that was quite a hero call stuff. I played first very passive overall as villain simply bluffed so much versus missed cbets that I basically would lose value by cbetting even most of the normal value hands.

Bit later noticed that he seemed to give absurd weight to my cbets so funnily enough I ended up checking huge amount of made hands and cbet all sort of trash... Well around 300€ up from him. At that point he seemed to have enough.

Same stuff continue though I was happy with my play today. Well just 50€ or so down with lost hands like this included:

Preflop allins:

This one wassingle raised preflop, cbet-call flop and shoved over villain turn bet on safe card. What is chance villain has AK with redraw when I have AKKK...

In here UTG raise, CO call, BU call, I squeeze crappy AAxx (dont love this but imo best line), BB cold call,2 folds and BU call. Flop is awesome with SPR bit over 1, I pot and get 3way allin. Board runs bd flush with us having half of clubs in our own cards, bleh.

This one is very marginal open in solver from CO. Though BU is good customer and BB has been tight looking. SB seems quite regular style. I open, BU call, SB squeeze and we both call. BB check flop (as he should almost always), I pot, BU fold, SB shove and I call.

I think that was well played by both of us. My 58% equity not holding.

Talking about BU from previous hand this is fine example. Solid preflop play from him to raise-call.

This one I probably should have x-f river and could have probably 3bet preflop. BU was playing like 90+ VPIP and had bet/donk bet flushing cards almost always. I called preflop, x-c flop, x-r pot turn and x-c river for half pot.

Sorry about bad run ramble again but last weeks have been stuff like this it feels like almost non stop.

Have been going through more of mastermind content and focus on study more and today played one short session on PLO25. Some 60€ profit but big positive side was that I actually felt lot more confidence on my play than I have recently. I think I have been too passive with some in position stabbing with hands that have ok blockers but not really that much equity/playability by checking. Especially as lot of people have way too weak checking range as preflop aggressor. That is case for me also but have been putting more focus on that. Though I think as default we want to cbet more as again lot of time people are stabbing less than solver assume.

One funny hand from today:

Preflop call is outside of solver ranges though JT97 would be call so I think its fine. Flop I dont have such strong draw so I think we prefer check. Well solver seems to be mixing it so might be better to stab in general. Well on turn hitting nuts and villain pot. Went for repot as I have solid redraw. With dry sort of JT I would just call. Villain call and river complete flush and he donk shoves. Idea is probably to make split hand to fold but at least I will have flush here pretty often. Well I could have like QQJT or AQJT type hand which would be in bad spot. But I think villain would want to have J♦: or T♦: or at least some high flush blocker to make such bluff.

Game #1572493294: Table €25 PL - 0.10/0.25 - Pot Limit Omaha - 15:51:47 2021/10/19
Seated players
Seat 1: FuCntWoutsi (€28.29)
Seat 2: Gryfffe (€28.29)
Seat 3: Kustaa (€25.95)
Seat 4: Mupposa (€33.14)
Seat 5: Maria_Chekov (€31.83)
Seat 6: TooTiiMaj (€25)
Blinds and button
Mupposa has the button
Maria_Chekov posts small blind €0.10
TooTiiMaj posts big blind €0.25
Hole cards
Dealt to Mupposa 9♠:T♦:J♦:6♣:
Preflop
FuCntWoutsi folds
Gryfffe folds
Kustaa raises €0.85 to €0.85
Mupposa calls €0.85
Maria_Chekov folds
TooTiiMaj folds
Flop 8♦:K♠:A♦:
Kustaa checks
Mupposa checks
Turn Q♣:
Kustaa bets €2.05
Mupposa raises €8.20 to €8.20
Kustaa calls €6.15
River 5♦:
Kustaa bets €16.90, and is all-in
Mupposa calls €16.90
Showdown
Kustaa shows T♣:3♠:J♣:8♠:, A Straight
Mupposa shows 9♠:T♦:J♦:6♣:, A Flush
Mupposa wins €50.68

Played another session and day up around 300€ so feeling nice

Did probably plunder one big hand by misreading my holding. Though this time it didnt matter that I had only 3rd nut fd and not nut fd as I somehow thought in game... (Villain had AKKx with bd fd): https://forums.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?postid=3273215#post3273215

Reason might be somewhat late time session.

Hey 8765sss spot I like to fold preflop but to sqz you must fold it GL

Oh well once again got screwed by villains 5-20% turn equity more than couple times. Then some really lucky people hitting sets/trips in 3bet and 4net pots with SPR being 0.5-2 so the usual stuff. Some 400€ down today. Posted few hands on hand area if someone wants to give feedback.

Originally posted by Pawez0
Hey 8765sss spot I like to fold preflop but to sqz you must fold it GL

If I remember right I checked it with plo trainer web app with PLO50 rake structure and it was marginal open raise and call versus squeeze.

This one was on end part of the session. Decided to just call EP open in button with maniac SB behind. If he had 3bet I was planning to 4bet if EP doesn't 4bet. SB just called. On flop I could have raised versus cbet but decided to slowplay again giving space for SB to do some stupid stuff more often.

On turn 56 should be very small part of EP range so not that scared of straight possibility and shoved over his second barrel.

Played day session moment ago. Three plo25 tables and one plo50 one. Would have been profitable session but on plo50 table had these two hands:

CO open, I 3bet from BU, BB cold call and CO call. BB donk shove, CO iso shove and I get it in with pretty solid hit. Almost 60% equity 3way.

Bit later this second one. CO open limp, I iso raise from BU, SB, BB and CO call. Flop goes checked. Hit nuts on turn and BB lead 6.75 into 9 pot and I can raise to 29.25 so I thought I get so much in with nuts that I have to raise. Tricky part though is that lot of cards complete reasonable draw, 4, 5, 7, 9, T, heart and spade.

So river was 3♥: which doesnt complete most straight draws or spade draw. I also block flush little bit. Need to be good like 20% of time so felt like I probably cant fold this combo. I could have lot weaker KK combos for hero calling. So this time this good turn became very expensive one.

last hand he has like tons of outs on the flop right.

Yeah flop is checked and I was jus folding to any bets Turn villain has over 40% equity versus my hand.

Solid move by villain here. Preflop went CO open, I 3bet, CO 4bet, T 5bet, CO calls and flops miracle flop with absolute trash, WP.

Decided to balance my checking range here in 3way pot in mid position. X-c flop and x-shove turn. Well not sure who is one with over 80+% equity anymore.

Same genius making move in 4bet pot when I cbet 1/4 pot with bit over SPR 1. 2 outs... Jesus ♦

I dont post next ones but same fellow got two more bins from me by 3bet-calling pre and sucking out on flop or later street with less than SPR 1 spot. Would be nice to have fraction of that guys luck.