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Pot is Legal in Canada
So 3/4 Pot is also legal 
This hand illustrates a well-known principle in PLO8 -- you need to play for both halves of the pot.
I have a lo hand OTT, but it isn't great, and my high hand isn't the best either.
Had I had the nuts in either case I would bet. (This is limit -- not pot limit)
Since we're head up, if we split the pot we both lose to rake, and I see that this is highly probable.
However here we split the high pot, and my lo -- no matter how bad -- takes the lo.
PokerStars - $1/$2 Hi/Lo (6 max) - Omaha Hi/Lo - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 27.59 BB
Hero (SB): 46.78 BB
BB: 114.66 BB
UTG: 29.72 BB
CO: 15.1 BB
Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5♣:A♣:2♥:T♠:
fold, CO calls 1 BB, BTN raises to 2 BB, Hero calls 1.5 BB, BB calls 1 BB, CO calls 1 BB
Flop: (8 BB, 4 players) Q♦:3♠:7♥:
Hero checks, BB checks, CO checks, BTN bets 1 BB, Hero calls 1 BB, fold, fold
Turn: (10 BB, 2 players) 2♠:
Hero checks, BTN checks
River: (10 BB, 2 players) T♦:
Hero checks, BTN checks
Hero shows 5♣:A♣:2♥:T♠: (High: Two Pair, Tens and Twos, Low: 7532A)
(Pre 55%, Flop 47%, Turn 65%)
BTN shows K♥:2♣:K♠:T♥: (Two Pair, Tens and Twos)
(Pre 45%, Flop 53%, Turn 35%)
BTN wins 2.4 BB
Rake paid 0.4 BB
Hero wins 7.2 BB
Pfff even with 4 cards you guys never win... Always splitting the pot...I win with 2 cards...
Serious, who ever wins in this game? If you are fighting for 1/2 pot a lot ... Only when you win 3/4 or whole pot you make profit? Or is this game lower raked?
I don't get that part 
Well it comes down to edge...
You are trying to play for *both* pots
You are drawing to the nuts whenever possible
Multi-way hands are good even in split pots
Variance overall is lower
So many players haven't a clue, so go after them, and be wary of those that do have a clue
I struggled for years playing micro-stakes hold'em going up and down and up and down -- never really losing, but not winning much at all, so I started learning all the other games, and did much better
Originally posted by VorpalF2F
Well it comes down to edge...
Also, the fact that many players think they have an "escape hatch" with a low only draw or made hand (or more rarely a hi only, maybe) can make them more willing to call big bets when you have them dominated on both pots than they probably would have been in a hi only game.
A Reverse Barry Greenstein
Ace on the River is supposed to help, not wreck your hand completely
PokerStars - $0.05 PL Hi/Lo (6 max) - Omaha Hi/Lo - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
CO: 121.6 BB
Hero (BTN): 176 BB
SB: 53.8 BB
BB: 74 BB
UTG: 88.8 BB
MP: 111.6 BB
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 2♣:Q♥:A♦:8♠:
fold, MP calls 1 BB, fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, MP calls 1 BB
Flop: (5.4 BB, 2 players) 3♣:9♦:7♦:
MP checks, Hero bets 2.8 BB, MP calls 2.8 BB
Turn: (11 BB, 2 players) 4♦:
MP checks, Hero bets 5.6 BB, MP calls 5.6 BB
River: (22.2 BB, 2 players) A♠:
MP checks, Hero checks
MP shows 6♥:4♠:2♦:4♣: (High: Three of a Kind, Fours, Low: 6432A)
(Pre 45%, Flop 55%, Turn 54%)
Hero mucks 2♣:Q♥:A♦:8♠: (High: One Pair, Aces, Low: 7432A)
(Pre 55%, Flop 45%, Turn 46%)
MP wins 21.4 BB
Rake paid 0.8 BB
Not Sure About This One
Opponent is 58/48/13 over 50 hands
CO posted a penalty blind, so has a wide open range.
I have no low hand though -- just a ton of outs really...
PokerStars - $0.10 PL Hi/Lo (6 max) - Omaha Hi/Lo - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 67.9 BB
SB: 86.1 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 70.9 BB
MP: 61.5 BB
CO: 99 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB, CO posts penalty blind 0.5 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 2 BB) Hero has J♦:A♠:9♣:A♣:
fold, MP calls 1 BB, CO raises to 5 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 4 BB, MP calls 4 BB
Flop: (16 BB, 3 players) 3♠:8♣:T♦:
Hero checks, MP checks, CO bets 15.3 BB, Hero raises to 61.2 BB, fold, CO raises to 93.5 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 32.3 BB
Turn: (203 BB, 2 players) 2♦:
River: (203 BB, 2 players) 7♣:
Hero shows J♦:A♠:9♣:A♣: (Straight, Jack High)
(Pre 56%, Flop 48%, Turn 33%)
CO shows 2♠:9♥:3♣:T♣: (Two Pair, Tens and Threes)
(Pre 44%, Flop 52%, Turn 68%)
Hero wins 194.4 BB
Rake paid 8.6 BB
Well That Was Fun!
PokerStars had a task "Raise 5 Flops in any game" to get a ghost throwable
Well why not?
So how best to do this?
I figured that the best way was to flat any pre-flop raise when OOP, then check/raise any flop.
It didn't say I had to win the hand, just raise the flop 5 times.
So I did exactly that.
The result:
It turns out that people see check/raises as rather strong
Here's one example:
PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 90.5 BB
SB: 348.5 BB
Hero (BB): 124 BB
UTG: 101 BB
MP: 212 BB
CO: 100.5 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♠:9♠:
fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 1 BB, SB raises to 4 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB
Flop: (12 BB, 3 players) Q♥:K♠:T♣:
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 12 BB, fold
Hero wins 17.5 BB
Rake paid 0.5 BB
I also played some FL $1/$2 Omaha Hi/Lo.
Even at this limit, people are playing far too many hands.
They play them so aggressively though, it is hard to really judge what their range might be.
Here is an example:
Opponent has no low, but OTF is seems very likely that there is a low out there.
OTT I get two pair, and can rep the low, which in a PL game will often get a fold here.
PokerStars - $1/$2 Hi/Lo (6 max) - Omaha Hi/Lo - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (SB): 29 BB
BB: 25.16 BB
UTG: 31.85 BB
CO: 30.47 BB
BTN: 28.5 BB
Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6♣:4♣:2♥:9♦:
UTG raises to 2 BB, CO calls 2 BB, fold, Hero calls 1.5 BB, BB calls 1 BB
Flop: (8 BB, 4 players) 4♠:6♠:A♣:
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks
Turn: (8 BB, 4 players) 9♣:
Hero bets 2 BB, BB calls 2 BB, fold, CO calls 2 BB
River: (14 BB, 3 players) 6♥:
Hero bets 2 BB, BB calls 2 BB, fold
Hero shows 6♣:4♣:2♥:9♦: (Full House, Sixes full of Nines)
(Pre 49%, Flop 71%, Turn 86%)
BB mucks T♥:3♥:4♦:K♠: (Two Pair, Sixes and Fours)
(Pre 51%, Flop 29%, Turn 14%)
Hero wins 17.28 BB
Rake paid 0.72 BB
I don't believe in ghosts...
A normal session would have won the ghost, you must have really wanted it :). Or you wanted to do something different and see... Have some fun...
Well, still, I don't believe in ghosts..
Originally posted by Stackoffski
I don't believe in ghosts...A normal session would have won the ghost, you must have really wanted it :). Or you wanted to do something different and see... Have some fun...
Well, still, I don't believe in ghosts..
For me, a normal session doesn't include hold'em, so yeah, I was just goofing around.
Equitas evanescit pepedi quasi in vento[1]
Such a perfect flop.
The turn unblocks other nut lows, so wasn't happy to see that.
Once the river landed, I thought -- If he has an 8 plus any board card, I get only 1/2 -- or worse a quarter.
PokerStars - $0.10 PL Hi/Lo (6 max) - Omaha Hi/Lo - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 448.6 BB
SB: 93.5 BB
Hero (BB): 203 BB
UTG: 96.7 BB
CO: 218.2 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4♥:A♦:3♥:2♣:
fold, CO calls 1 BB, BTN raises to 2 BB, fold, Hero calls 1 BB, CO calls 1 BB
Flop: (6.5 BB, 3 players) 5♥:4♣:6♠:
Hero bets 3.2 BB, CO calls 3.2 BB, fold
Turn: (12.9 BB, 2 players) 3♣:
Hero bets 8.6 BB, CO calls 8.6 BB
River: (30.1 BB, 2 players) 7♥:
Hero checks, CO bets 28.8 BB, Hero calls 28.8 BB
CO shows 9♠:8♣:A♥:2♠: (High: Straight, Nine High, Low: 5432A)
(Pre 57%, Flop 32%, Turn 30%)
Hero shows 4♥:A♦:3♥:2♣: (High: Straight, Seven High, Low: 5432A)
(Pre 43%, Flop 68%, Turn 70%)
Hero wins 21 BB
Rake paid 3.7 BB
CO wins 63 BB
[1] "Equity vanishes like a fart in the wind"
Well That Was Nice
I play the GGPoker freebies every day, but this was the first win in quite a while.
I quite often pick up a few bounties, but the win is nice.
In other news, we're finally winding down the winding up of my Mum's estate.
So close to the end now.
I hope to be back streaming starting in November.
Originally posted by VorpalF2F
In other news, we're finally winding down the winding up of my Mum's estate.
So close to the end now.I hope to be back streaming starting in November.
Great to hear, I miss the streams.
Great news for streaming in November. I would definitely like to see. Hope the next month will be happier for me than this one.
Thanks melisabernts,
The next two days are crucial for me -- I have today to get all the rest of the stuff packed or removed.
Tomorrow the movers come to take the rest of the stuff to storage.
After that, I'll have free time again.
Originally posted by melisabernts
Hope the next month will be happier for me than this one.
My Mum would say, "One day at a time".
We owned that truck from 1978 to 1992, and travelled all over British Columbia in it.
It is a 1954 Dodge M152 CDN -- a military vehicle used by the Canadian Armed Forces.
I got it at an auction in March of '78
When our kids were little we went camping in it a fair bit.
We also took in on backroads quite a bit as well
I Got Away With It
Opponent is playing VPIP/PFR 53/13
More importantly, he goes to showdown a lot, but doesn't win so much (which is quite odd because he is an overall winner, and PLO8 has a lot of split pots)
PokerStars - $0.10 PL Hi/Lo (6 max) - Omaha Hi/Lo - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
MP: 143.8 BB
CO: 178.3 BB
Hero (BTN): 136.7 BB
SB: 67.5 BB
BB: 130.5 BB
UTG: 52.6 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4♦:8♠:6♣:A♠:
fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.2 BB, fold, BB calls 1.2 BB
Flop: (4.9 BB, 2 players) T♣:2♣:7♠:
BB checks, Hero checks
Turn: (4.9 BB, 2 players) 9♥:
BB bets 2.4 BB, Hero raises to 11.9 BB, BB calls 9.5 BB <<< not the nuts, but we need to charge $ for people chasing low draws. I'd rather take it down now, then split it.
River: (28.7 BB, 2 players) Q♣:
BB checks, Hero checks <<< my hand doesn't improve, but opponent's might, so no point in trying for more value, since I'm gonna hate getting raised.
BB shows T♠:5♥:A♣:2♦: (Two Pair, Tens and Twos)
(Pre 55%, Flop 55%, Turn 14%)
Hero shows 4♦:8♠:6♣:A♠: (Straight, Ten High)
(Pre 45%, Flop 45%, Turn 86%)
Hero wins 27.5 BB
Rake paid 1.2 BB
Here is a Rarity
3-Way AIPF with a Aces and a weak low -- yet still scoop
PokerStars - $0.10 PL Hi/Lo (6 max) - Omaha Hi/Lo - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
CO: 92.1 BB
BTN: 125.8 BB
SB: 152.6 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 151.2 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♦:Q♠:8♦:A♥:
fold, CO raises to 2 BB, BTN calls 2 BB, fold, Hero raises to 8.5 BB, CO calls 6.5 BB, BTN raises to 34.5 BB, Hero raises to 100 BB and is all-in, CO calls 83.6 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 65.5 BB
Flop: (292.6 BB, 3 players) 4♣:Q♦:9♣:
Turn: (292.6 BB, 3 players) J♦:
River: (292.6 BB, 3 players) 2♥:
Hero shows A♦:Q♠:8♦:A♥: (One Pair, Aces)
Main Pot [276.8 BB]: (Pre 36%, Flop 56%, Turn 83%)
Side Pot#1 [15.8 BB]: (Pre 58%, Flop 77%, Turn 83%)
BTN shows K♥:5♥:4♦:K♦: (One Pair, Kings)
Main Pot [276.8 BB]: (Pre 26%, Flop 22%, Turn 17%)
Side Pot#1 [15.8 BB]: (Pre 41%, Flop 23%, Turn 17%)
CO shows T♣:2♠:3♠:5♦: (One Pair, Twos)
Main Pot [276.8 BB]: (Pre 38%, Flop 22%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins 280.2 BB
Rake paid 12.4 BB