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mjez1
Joined: 29.06.2015

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.02/$0.05 - 6 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

UTG: $14.66 (293 bb)
MP: $6.48 (130 bb)
CO: $12.85 (257 bb)
BU (Hero): $5.07 (101 bb)
SB: $4.29 (86 bb)
BB: $6.68 (134 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with Q Q
1 fold, MP calls $0.05, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.20, SB calls $0.18, 1 fold, MP calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.65) 8 5 2 (3 players)
SB checks, MP bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, SB folds

Turn: ($1.65) 3 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.65) 7 (2 players)
MP bets $1.58, Hero calls $1.58


An unknown player limps from the middle position, I raise him 4x with a premium hand in position. SB just calls which tells me his hand is probably mostly pairs or broadways. Flop is wet and preflop limper decides to take a lead. My hand is too strong to fold and I block a flush draw. His bet is pretty big so I'm suspicious. Could be a set. The turn brings a flush and villain checks. That fits my theory of a set. But I don't think he would fold his set against my bet anyway so I just check. The river is mostly a blank but he decides to bet big. I don't think he would bet that big if he thinks I have a flush, his sizing seems like he tries to bluff me off my hand.
I'm wondering what are your thoughts on this hand, please.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

It's also interesting to know what you're thought process was during the hand.

I would consider to make a thin value bet on the turn with the over pair and flush draw as backup, but than you could get in a a tricky spot if villain would check raise. Than you need to fold most of the time.

River is tricky against almost a pot size bet without any info on the villain in this hand. Villain needs to change a missed draw in to a bluff or over play top pair to make a call profitable.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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mjez1
Joined: 29.06.2015

Originally posted by SDK1987
It's also interesting to know what you're thought process was during the hand.

Yes, I'm sorry, I added it.


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4zbuk4RNMD
Joined: 29.12.2009

For me it looks like a set. Players really often just limp/call low pocket pairs, so 55 or 22 would not surprise me. On flop he (over)protects himself from FD and when flush comes on turn, he just checks. I agree he would´t fold If you bet on this street, that would be XC from him. On river he assumes you don´t have flush, otherwise he would expect your bet on turn. So he fires hard again.

If you would bet on turn, you would get a call and maybe both would check on river and you would have save some money. Maybe there are also some 99 or TT in his range, which you can beat and he thinks he is master of universe on that low flop - trying to get rid of you and afraid of FD and possible comming overcards on next streets.


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mjez1
Joined: 29.06.2015

Originally posted by 4zbuk4RNMD
you would have save some money

I haven't lost money in this pot.


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LMcrow
Joined: 15.08.2006

I like the way you played that hand. You could argue to raise flop or bet turn for value and protection but i think as played is totally fine, we keep his bluffs into the hand and river is 100 % call as played. Having the Q of diamond makes it even more a call.

Folding river here as played is WAY to nitty. I would only consider folding against an overbet or allin shove.


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salseson
Joined: 07.07.2014

And what was that? 66?


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mjez1
Joined: 29.06.2015
Spoiler

A♥:J♠:


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mjez1
Joined: 29.06.2015

I was thinking if it makes sense to give a villain a range at NL5. I see it makes sense on higher limits but here I often play against hands I wouldn't put into his range.


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