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vengeance77
Joined: 18.04.2010

Saturday daily free:)


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vengeance77
Joined: 18.04.2010

Snap FOld!

Imagine what he had, 0 3B from BU, 0 4B! Folded 5+KK thi month! Yesterday vs 9/1 in 800 hands NIT REG 0 3b 0 4B who c4B ! right after CO/bb snap folded QQ vs that freak! The most Disgusting Nutted games in the world!


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vengeance77
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vengeance77
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Disgusting pigg NITs!

But these time daddy is here!


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eslchr1s
Joined: 20.12.2009

Originally posted by vengeance77
I am having 59.2% W$SD with 25% WTSD and Average All-In EQ os 67.7 with 3.45 Aggression for 135k hands!

No offense, but these are horrible stats and might be a reason why you lose longterm. If you would win at 5bb/100, which is easily possible at this limit, a downswing like yours would be... well very very unlikely.

Your W$SD is way to high... the higher the better is not true. Imagine someone winning 100% at showdown because he only calls river bets with Quads or better... bad idea right? It should be more like 52%. You get pot odds... right?

25% WTSD is reflecting that... way to low.

Average Pre AI % with 67,7% is also way to high...

3.45 aggression factor is okay if you play tight fullring games... it reflects that you play tight ranges preflop and then go bust or go home with them.


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vengeance77
Joined: 18.04.2010

Mhm I see!

Those are horrible stats!

Optimal WTSD is 23.7-28.5 and mine is 25, when over folding, because of there nuttiness!
Optimal Agg is 2.2-3.6 and mine is 3.4 at the higher end, because I am having tighter preflop ranges!

Excuse me, but to tell me all those and not alll in pre, but Average all in EQ are bad, when your WTSD is in optimal range you are simply a way to wrong, because it doesn't logically make sens! And no I don't overplay, I am just getting st up and suck out all the time by disgusting ridiculous ways for the low live low intellect creatures to collect me!
This is how much better I am than them and how ridiculously unlucky I am!

Those are from this month! I saw many disgusting things in 11 years and approx 8.5 mil hands, but these 2 months/approx 170k hands beats them all! I am sick of poker! I need a break or simply quit, because it is trash gambling game and skills aren't having enough impact to beat the luck in every term!


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by vengeance77
Optimal WTSD is 23.7-28.5 and mine is 25, when over folding, because of there nuttiness!
Optimal Agg is 2.2-3.6 and mine is 3.4 at the higher end, because I am having tighter preflop ranges!

Just out of curiosity, where do you find out what "optimal" stats are?

Best wishes for 2022!


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vengeance77
Joined: 18.04.2010

Ace poker solutions Leak Buster 2 is showing all the optimal stats ranges + some of stats are also shown in poker snowie!

All my HUD stats are colour coded regarding the optimal stats and it is pretty easy to get instant decision in most cases, because most of the players are pretty far a way from them!

Another 30 BIs this month so fck unbelievable! Cannot upload the graph for some reason!

Local BR in stars after 83k hands ended with 524$ -1$/-32 BIs jesus!/
GG poker 66-86 this month! +20$


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by vengeance77
Cannot upload the graph for some reason!

You're the second member that reported problems uploading images.
There may have been a problem before, but I just checked, and it is working now.

Just in case, I posted instructions.

If you're still having trouble, let us know what happens when you try to post an image.

...wishing you the very best for a peaceful, prosperous 2022,
VS


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vengeance77
Joined: 18.04.2010

Cannot drag pictures from my PC! Pokerstrategy says : Ooops something went wrong while uploading!

Happy New Year everyone!


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by vengeance77
Cannot drag pictures from my PC! Pokerstrategy says : Ooops something went wrong while uploading!

Happy New Year everyone!

Yeah — me too.
I've alerted the admins, but it's the weekend...


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Matkalaulu
Joined: 03.01.2022

Hey. It's quite obvious that your play leaks postflop because you believe to play optimal preflop game. You might want to add ev lines or bbs to those grapsh and stats allso. You should run leakbuster for your postflop game (don't know if you can though) if you believe that is reliable software .Or just do some work and study. Atm you lose so much money postflop it doesn't help if you don't ever make a mistake pre. Other players might even just run you over because your pre (and sd) stats are too tight and your ranges are so often capped. 25 wsd 60 win just screams you fold majority of the range you should be paying. No matter what the buster tells you to do.


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vengeance77
Joined: 18.04.2010

I am over folding indeed, because 80+% are freaking NITs +10%+ stations! But you cannot imagine what sick set ups and suck outs is setting me all the time!

My default pre are 22/18 with 8% 3b and 2.5% 4B, defending 67% of the time oc, but I am for 1st time so tight as 19/17 with 6% 3b and 2.5% 4b, because of tightness exploitation. I cannot 3b enough, because they are not folding to 3b! They are so nutty I am having these stats instead of the stats I should have! I've never played this thigh, but I've never played vs such freaking NITs! This is why my post flop aggression factor is at the higher end of 3.45, because I am having tighter pre flop ranges and I am not even huge pure bluffs, just most of the time thin value betting and double barreling giving up draws, not even double barreling draws all the time vs some freaks! My Agg% by streets is optimal, my River call efficiency is optimal, my WTSD, W$WSF are optimal! I am over folding pre a bit, not 3b and SQ enought, vs raise on every streat and over folding a bit OTR! Every played hand is analysed with pokersnowie pro as well! Never played in such nutty games in 11 years, this is like 9 max! And because of that the variance is brutal and it is the games when the one who is the most lucky to set up and suck out is the one winning in every term of volume! It is disgusting! Unfortunately I am ridiculously unlucky!

I am loosing at average 3 BIs/1000 for 180k hands by ridiculous ways! I am hitting and having my top range only to lose more! Like c4b AA and b/b/J at Jxxss/A/K and the fck with QT off or hitting runner runner nut flush vs runner runner FH or having 90%+ OTF and till the river having just bluff catcher and they are always there! This is all the time! In most cases I am loosing the minimum when possible, but it doesn't fck end! I is not just that I am having bad luck it is setting me up for the piggs to collect me by ridiculous ways and even I am loosing the minimum most of the time it just keeps doing it!


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Matkalaulu
Joined: 03.01.2022

If they are nits why aren't you barreling and playing way more lag than optimal? You make money against the nits threw redline stations threw the blueline. If 80% of the pool are nits you really shouldn't have that high wonsd because you should be barreling them of the pots and making way more money vs having the top of your range in the sds. Just my 2 cents. Allso I don't think you are ridiculously unlucky untill you post your evbb vs bb 10k+ hands sample.


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eslchr1s
Joined: 20.12.2009

Originally posted by vengeance77
I am loosing at average 3 BIs/1000 for 180k hands by ridiculous ways!

I hope your realise that there is no way that you are "running bad".

You can go to primedope dot com and toy around a bit with the variance calculator. Even as the unluckiest person in the universe... there is no way you would lose that much over this sample, even as a break even player.

Realise that you have to have many severe leaks in your game and try to find them. If you just say you run bad, you will never improve in a way necessary to beat the limits you play.


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vengeance77
Joined: 18.04.2010

Yea I am playing so bad and have so severe leaks, that some of best professional analysing tools such as LeakBuster2 and Poker snowie cannot find! You simply don't know what to run bad is and how ridiculous it is to thing you are winning simly because you are good in GAMBLING, when the Luck is the king in every term!

How you are barreling NITs ranges, when they are crushing you! Seriously mate! Come on what did you just say?

Look the average VPIP in NL10 zoom games 13-15 WTF is that! NIt's party is what it is!


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by vengeance77
Look the average VPIP in NL10 zoom games 13-15 WTF is that! NIt's party is what it is!

I assume you've seen "The Five Player Types"
It is old, but the principles still apply.

Incidentally, when playing zoom I'm a tighter against unknowns — but I don't get down into nit territory (at least I don't think so)
The point is that if you know that opponent is a nit, just take their money.


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vengeance77
Joined: 18.04.2010

This is simple example for average 3 000 hands day 62 out of 65 days!

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

BTN: $10.00 (100 bb)
SB: $7.62 (76.2 bb)
BB: $20.82 (208.2 bb)
UTG: $10.02 (100.2 bb)
Hero (MP): $10.99 (109.9 bb)
CO: $9.75 (97.5 bb)

SB posts $0.05, BB posts $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has K♥: K♣:
UTG raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $0.90, 4 folds, UTG raises to $2.65, Hero raises to $10.99 and is all-in, UTG calls $7.37 and is all-in

Flop: ($20.19, 2 players) T♦: 5♥: 6♦:

Turn: ($20.19, 2 players) 3♠:

River: ($20.19, 2 players) 9♥:

Results: $20.19 pot ($1.14 rake)
Final Board: T♦: 5♥: 6♦: 3♠: 9♥:

UTG shows A♦: A♣:: (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 82%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)

Hero shows K♥: K♣:: (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 18%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)

UTG wins $19.05

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

BTN: $9.75 (97.5 bb)
Hero (SB): $11.84 (118.4 bb)
BB: $16.17 (161.7 bb)
UTG: $10.00 (100 bb)
MP: $25.67 (256.7 bb)
CO: $68.76 (687.6 bb)

Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has K♦: K♣:
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.20, Hero raises to $0.83, fold, BTN calls $0.63

Flop: ($1.76, 2 players) 6♣: 6♠: 4♠:
Hero bets $0.86, BTN raises to $2.49, Hero raises to $11.01 and is all-in, BTN calls $6.43 and is all-in

Turn: ($19.60, 2 players) 7♠:

River: ($19.60, 2 players) 8♥:

Results: $19.60 pot ($1.10 rake)
Final Board: 6♣: 6♠: 4♠: 7♠: 8♥:

Hero shows K♦: K♣:: (Two Pair, Kings and Sixes)
(Pre 68%, Flop 60%, Turn 9%)

BTN shows J♠: A♠:: (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 32%, Flop 40%, Turn 91%)

BTN wins $18.50

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

BTN: $8.95 (89.5 bb)
SB: $10.20 (102 bb)
BB: $43.78 (437.8 bb)
UTG: $39.78 (397.8 bb)
Hero (MP): $12.59 (125.9 bb)
CO: $29.40 (294 bb)

SB posts $0.05, BB posts $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has T♣: A♣:
fold, Hero raises to $0.23, CO raises to $0.80, 3 folds, Hero raises to $2.40, CO calls $1.60

Flop: ($4.95, 2 players) Q♣: 8♠: T♥:
Hero bets $1.18, CO calls $1.18

Turn: ($7.31, 2 players) J♣:
Hero checks, CO bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

River: ($12.31, 2 players) 9♥:
Hero checks, CO bets $9.17, Hero folds

Results: $12.31 pot ($0.55 rake)
Final Board: Q♣: 8♠: T♥: J♣: 9♥:

CO wins $11.76

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

BTN: $9.59 (95.9 bb)
SB: $16.02 (160.2 bb)
BB: $4.42 (44.2 bb)
Hero (UTG): $10.35 (103.5 bb)
MP: $12.71 (127.1 bb)
CO: $10.26 (102.6 bb)

SB posts $0.05, BB posts $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has J♠: J♥:
Hero raises to $0.23, fold, CO raises to $0.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.52

Flop: ($1.65, 2 players) 7♣: 8♠: J♣:
Hero checks, CO bets $0.55, Hero raises to $1.92, CO calls $1.37

Turn: ($5.49, 2 players) T♠:
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($5.49, 2 players) 9♦:
Hero checks, CO bets $1.31, Hero calls $1.31

Results: $8.11 pot ($0.36 rake)
Final Board: 7♣: 8♠: J♣: T♠: 9♦:

CO shows Q♣: Q♠:: (Straight, Queen High)
(Pre 82%, Flop 14%, Turn 14%)

Hero mucks J♠: J♥:: (Straight, Jack High)
(Pre 18%, Flop 86%, Turn 86%)

CO wins $7.75

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

BTN: $10.00 (100 bb)
Hero (SB): $16.22 (162.2 bb)
BB: $14.85 (148.5 bb)
UTG: $17.93 (179.3 bb)
MP: $10.00 (100 bb)
CO: $5.79 (57.9 bb)

Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has K♠: K♣:
2 folds, CO raises to $0.20, fold, Hero raises to $0.83, fold, CO calls $0.63

Flop: ($1.76, 2 players) 4♣: 9♦: J♦:
Hero bets $1.26, CO raises to $4.96 and is all-in, Hero calls $3.70

Turn: ($11.68, 2 players) 5♥:

River: ($11.68, 2 players) Q♦:

Results: $11.68 pot ($0.53 rake)
Final Board: 4♣: 9♦: J♦: 5♥: Q♦:

Hero shows K♠: K♣:: (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 80%, Flop 87%, Turn 5%)

CO shows 5♣: 5♦:: (Three of a Kind, Fives)
(Pre 20%, Flop 13%, Turn 95%)

CO wins $11.15

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

BTN: $14.00 (140 bb)
SB: $10.42 (104.2 bb)
BB: $13.33 (133.3 bb)
UTG: $10.00 (100 bb)
MP: $13.91 (139.1 bb)
Hero (CO): $12.63 (126.3 bb)

SB posts $0.05, BB posts $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A♠: A♦:
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.23, 2 folds, BB calls $0.13

Flop: ($0.51, 2 players) K♣: 2♦: Q♣:
BB checks, Hero bets $0.25, BB calls $0.25

Turn: ($1.01, 2 players) 7♠:
BB checks, Hero bets $0.49, BB calls $0.49

River: ($1.99, 2 players) 7♥:
BB bets $1.05, Hero raises to $3.09, BB calls $2.04

Results: $8.17 pot ($0.37 rake)
Final Board: K♣: 2♦: Q♣: 7♠: 7♥:

Hero shows A♠: A♦:: (Two Pair, Aces and Sevens)
(Pre 88%, Flop 63%, Turn 75%)

BB shows A♣: 7♣:: (Three of a Kind, Sevens)
(Pre 12%, Flop 37%, Turn 25%)

BB wins $7.80

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

BTN: $29.54 (295.4 bb)
SB: $16.16 (161.6 bb)
BB: $17.16 (171.6 bb)
Hero (UTG): $15.76 (157.6 bb)
MP: $13.14 (131.4 bb)
CO: $10.51 (105.1 bb)

SB posts $0.05, BB posts $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A♥: K♣:
Hero raises to $0.23, 4 folds, BB calls $0.13

Flop: ($0.51, 2 players) 6♥: A♦: J♥:
BB checks, Hero bets $0.25, BB calls $0.25

Turn: ($1.01, 2 players) A♣:
BB checks, Hero bets $0.49, BB calls $0.49

River: ($1.99, 2 players) 8♦:
BB checks, Hero bets $0.97, BB raises to $3.85, Hero folds

Results: $3.93 pot ($0.18 rake)
Final Board: 6♥: A♦: J♥: A♣: 8♦:

BB wins $3.75

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

BTN: $28.84 (288.4 bb)
SB: $9.90 (99 bb)
BB: $10.00 (100 bb)
UTG: $10.52 (105.2 bb)
MP: $24.60 (246 bb)
Hero (CO): $13.04 (130.4 bb)

SB posts $0.05, BB posts $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has Q♥: K♥:
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.23, fold, SB calls $0.18, fold

Flop: ($0.56, 2 players) 5♦: 5♥: J♣:
SB checks, Hero bets $0.17, SB calls $0.17

Turn: ($0.90, 2 players) K♠:
SB bets $0.43, Hero calls $0.43

River: ($1.76, 2 players) 3♦:
SB bets $1.68, Hero calls $1.68

Results: $5.12 pot ($0.23 rake)
Final Board: 5♦: 5♥: J♣: K♠: 3♦:

SB shows A♦: 5♣:: (Three of a Kind, Fives)
(Pre 54%, Flop 95%, Turn 95%)

Hero mucks Q♥: K♥:: (Two Pair, Kings and Fives)
(Pre 46%, Flop 5%, Turn 5%)

SB wins $4.89

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

Hero (BTN): $15.64 (156.4 bb)
SB: $12.54 (125.4 bb)
BB: $5.00 (50 bb)
UTG: $43.08 (430.8 bb)
MP: $24.54 (245.4 bb)
CO: $11.10 (111 bb)

SB posts $0.05, BB posts $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A♠: 8♣:
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, SB calls $0.15, fold

Flop: ($0.50, 2 players) 3♥: K♠: 7♠:
SB checks, Hero bets $0.24, SB calls $0.24

Turn: ($0.98, 2 players) 9♠:
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($0.98, 2 players) J♠:
SB bets $12.10 and is all-in, Hero

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

Hero (BTN): $10.00 (100 bb)
SB: $14.05 (140.5 bb)
BB: $5.13 (51.3 bb)
UTG: $10.00 (100 bb)
MP: $21.07 (210.7 bb)
CO: $15.99 (159.9 bb)

SB posts $0.05, BB posts $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has Q♦: Q♠:
fold, MP raises to $0.30, fold, Hero raises to $0.90, 2 folds, MP calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.95, 2 players) 6♣: 7♥: 3♣:
MP checks, Hero bets $0.95, MP raises to $19.80, Hero calls $8.15 and is all-in

Turn: ($20.15, 2 players) Q♣:

River: ($20.15, 2 players) K♦:

Results: $20.15 pot ($0.91 rake)
Final Board: 6♣: 7♥: 3♣: Q♣: K♦:

MP shows T♣: K♣:: (Flush, King High)
(Pre 33%, Flop 47%, Turn 77%)

Hero shows Q♦: Q♠:: (Three of a Kind, Queens)
(Pre 67%, Flop 53%, Turn 23%)

MP wins $19.24

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

BTN: $12.40 (124 bb)
SB: $13.02 (130.2 bb)
Hero (BB): $10.00 (100 bb)
UTG: $18.55 (185.5 bb)
MP: $9.17 (91.7 bb)
CO: $10.00 (100 bb)

SB posts $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has 4♣: 5♣:
4 folds, SB raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.60, 2 players) 6♦: 7♣: 6♠:
SB bets $0.34, Hero calls $0.34

Turn: ($1.28, 2 players) 8♣:
SB bets $0.73, Hero calls $0.73

River: ($2.74, 2 players) J♠:
SB bets $2.00, Hero calls $2.00

Results: $6.74 pot ($0.30 rake)
Final Board: 6♦: 7♣: 6♠: 8♣: J♠:

SB shows 9♣: T♦:: (Straight, Jack High)
(Pre 62%, Flop 64%, Turn 82%)

Hero mucks 4♣: 5♣:: (Straight, Eight High)
(Pre 38%, Flop 36%, Turn 18%)

SB wins $6.44

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

BTN: $10.00 (100 bb)
SB: $42.49 (424.9 bb)
BB: $34.90 (349 bb)
UTG: $12.26 (122.6 bb)
Hero (MP): $18.67 (186.7 bb)
CO: $12.87 (128.7 bb)

SB posts $0.05, BB posts $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has 9♦: 9♥:
fold, Hero raises to $0.23, CO raises to $0.80, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.57

Flop: ($1.75, 2 players) 9♠: K♥: T♦:
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($1.75, 2 players) Q♥:
Hero checks, CO bets $0.84, Hero calls $0.84

River: ($3.43, 2 players) A♥:
Hero checks, CO checks

Results: $3.43 pot ($0.15 rake)
Final Board: 9♠: K♥: T♦: Q♥: A♥:

Hero shows 9♦: 9♥:: (Three of a Kind, Nines)
(Pre 52%, Flop 35%, Turn 24%)

CO shows J♦: Q♦:: (Straight, Ace High)
(Pre 48%, Flop 65%, Turn 76%)

CO wins $3.28

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

BTN: $11.36 (113.6 bb)
SB: $1.78 (17.8 bb)
BB: $10.95 (109.5 bb)
Hero (UTG): $10.00 (100 bb)
MP: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
CO: $10.40 (104 bb)

SB posts $0.05, BB posts $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has J♥: Q♥:
Hero raises to $0.23, fold, CO calls $0.23, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.61, 2 players) 9♥: T♥: J♠:
Hero bets $0.30, CO calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.21, 2 players) 3♣:
Hero bets $0.59, CO calls $0.59

River: ($2.39, 2 players) A♣:
Hero checks, CO checks

Results: $2.39 pot ($0.11 rake)
Final Board: 9♥: T♥: J♠: 3♣: A♣:

Hero shows J♥: Q♥:: (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 34%, Flop 58%, Turn 73%)

CO shows A♥: K♥:: (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 66%, Flop 42%, Turn 27%)

CO wins $2.28

62 out of 65 days like this! So fck unbelievably ridiculous and disgusting setting me up for the piggs to collect me, no matter I am loosing the min most of the time it just keeps setting me without break!
Go play poker!
You don't know what to run bad constantly is!
I bet no more than 5% of the poker players can bare that kind of running more than 1 month before quitting poker! 70 fck BIs down from play doesn't fck end!
Low intelligence luck based gambling trash game requires no more of a skill, but knowing the rules and having luck!


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microfever
Joined: 23.09.2019

Many questionable plays not only bad run. I hope I have time tomorrow to give my thoughts.


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