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[PLO5] A654ss EP open vs BB 3bet - open to lose?

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naDanje
Joined: 01.04.2007

open to lose utg? quite sure that A765ss should be good(at least thats what my notes say), 1 rank lower could be close-ish? vs 3bet ip i'd say call not much of a question, also villain was a bit on the loser side.
On this board as played i guess not much of a choice and just sending should be good.

Xeester - Cash game GGPoker
Blindes : 0.02 $/0.05 $
[SB] Player 2 (4.78 $)
[BB] Player 3 (2.37 $)
[UTG] HERO (16.01 $)
[HJ] Player 5 (2.31 $)
[CO] Player 6 (6.96 $)
[BTN] Player 1 (5.01 $)
BLINDS-ANTES
Player 2 [SB] : Posts small blind 0.02$
Player 3 [BB] : Posts big blind 0.05$
PREFLOP A♠ 6♠ 5♥ 4♣
HERO [UTG] : Raises 0.17$
Player 5 [HJ] : Folds
Player 6 [CO] : Folds
Player 1 [BTN] : Folds
Player 2 [SB] : Folds
Player 3 [BB] : Raises 0.48$
HERO [UTG] : Calls 0.36$
FLOP 7♥ J♠ T♠
Player 3 [BB] : Bets 1.08$
HERO [UTG] : Raises 2.16$


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Hausierer
Joined: 10.05.2005

I'd expect if he bets the flop he goes broke happily. Not sure if you want to get it in with a naked FD. Your A-out is most likely dead as well.


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naDanje
Joined: 01.04.2007

well i need like 33% @ spr1 - i should have that for sure.
not sure if its appropriate to say spr1 when he bets pot or better to say spr2 based on stacks coming to the flop in that scenario?
then i would need 40% which on avg i will also have here.
vs random AAxx have 47%
vs 89xx 38%
vs JJxx 32% (probably the least likely here)
vs KKxx 50%
vs JTxx 41%
vs KsQsxx 41%
vs AAXsXs 43%


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ColorFlusher
Joined: 19.01.2008

It's spr 2. No reason to raise on the flop because you are always behind. Sometimes by just calling you get a free river and save couple of blinds there.


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naDanje
Joined: 01.04.2007

Originally posted by ColorFlusher
It's spr 2. No reason to raise on the flop because you are always behind. Sometimes by just calling you get a free river and save couple of blinds there.

hmm goes both ways right? if i call, turn is my flush he may safe himself the remaining bbs, assuming he has AAxx or KKxx without backup a spade turn he can pretty much let go if i call potsize flop.
but sure, call is fine too. was wondering more about the open in ep. ^^

Spoiler

Player 3 [BB] : Calls all-in 0.76$
HERO [UTG] : Uncalled bet 0.32$
SHOWDOWN
HERO [UTG] : Shows A♠ 6♠ 5♥ 4♣
Player 3 [BB] : Shows K♣ K♠ 9♣ 7♣
TURN 7♥ J♠ T♠ Q♣ [0 players, Pot = 4.76$ / 95.2bb]
RIVER 7♥ J♠ T♠ Q♣ T♥ [Pot = 4.76$ / 95.2bb]
Player 3 [BB] : Wins 4.54$
SUMMARY
BB : Player 3 | 53%
UTG : HERO | 47%
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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

Preflop is solver approved.

Nasty flop, as SPR is a bit under 2. Not sure about the exact required equity as hand history doesn't show pot size. But if I look right, we have 1,84 effective stacks and total pot would be 4,76. That would be 38-39% equity. And versus his range we have it. Calling doesn't achieve much, just raise and get it in.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Pre is fine with perfect low card connectivity. I would fold flop. SPR always refers to stack to pot ratio at start of the street before any betting. What did you use to get those equities? Just checked some with propokertools:


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

Remember that he can have a lot more than just AA or 98. He probably shoves any flush draw, overpairs (with something or not), 2 pairs etc. 98xx is the only part that we don't have the required equity. Close, but in my experience with low SPR average Joe shoves there way wider range.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Yeah I suppose we have just enough equity. Having 654 component give some bd sd equity which helps. Like A254 with nfd would still be fold imo.


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naDanje
Joined: 01.04.2007

used this omaha equilab from pokerstrategy.
i am not sure now, maybe i played around and did not change a card back to what it should be.
just put it in again and it indeed differs - not sure which card i changed without putting it back to the correct one ^^
vs AAxx @ 44% insted of 47%
vs 89xx @ 34%
vs KKxx @ 47%
vs JTxx @ 39%
but overall diffrences are small enough to still have on avg enough equity here i think. especially vs quite lose / aggro villain.
Anyhow very nice catch, makes the whole situation much closer.


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