tough spot for KK, 145BBESS oop

You have showdown value, but how do you see a showdown?
Options:
 check/call
 bet/call <<<problem is that you really don't want to see a shove and sizing the bet becomes problematic. To small and you induce the shove. Better won't fold, and not much worse will call.

I'm voting check/call, but as a registered nit, I'm folding to any very large bets.

I'd check flop. Great board, our hand isn't vulnerable. Easy check.
As played i feel this is a X/f. Opponent will check back Q's J's. Ace is a bad card, if he ships air here after we double check then whatever. Just don't think alot of villians are strong enough to do that.

Legit tough spot!

I would go ahead and bet flop too - i think "checking flop" is resultsorientated. If it wasnt for the worst card in the deck on the turn, im not sure any1 would go about the "check the flop" argument.

I dont like bet/folding river.

While i do not like leaving the initiative to my oponent, this is (in my humble opinion) one of those spots where u're never getting called by worse otr - JJ/QQ/random stuff might just bluff the river when checked to twice.

WP if you check/called river

/AlcopopDK

We check the flop because we have a non vulnerable holding that protects our checking range. Has nothing to do with the turn or being results orientated.

For me is check river. I would expect from him call 3B hand like AQ, ATs, and some pairs 99, TT, JJ

Originally posted by DecMate
I'd check flop. Great board, our hand isn't vulnerable. Easy check.
As played i feel this is a X/f. Opponent will check back Q's J's. Ace is a bad card, if he ships air here after we double check then whatever. Just don't think alot of villians are strong enough to do that.

seems like sound advice and reasoning.