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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

You can better ask PokerStars support. They can give you the best feedback about this I think.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

The Deal may actually be -EV now.
In the past twelve hours, the jackpot only increased by 633.13
Assumptions: <<<well, guesses actually
:diamond:  players are playing 7 coins per game
:diamond:  a coin is worth $0.01
:diamond:  only 6 cents per play get added to the jackpot

This implies that only 10,552 players played in that 12 hours
If more people are playing 70 cents per game, then far fewer are playing.

So much reduced chance of someone hitting the jackpot, but much larger payout w̶h̶e̶n̶ if someone does win


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

That's to bad. That's the problem with all those restrictions of different countries.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by someone who didn't read his email carefully
Did anyone notice what time the jackpot was won?
at 17:26 UTC it is showing as a jackpot of 25,311, and at recent rates that would mean about 6 hours ago — however I did not receive any money.

Very strange.
When I saw that it had been won, I checked my email — nothing.
However when I checked again just now, it showed up — and was posted at 07:48 UTC

Payout?
$18.78 — the highest payout I've ever received:
$/coin? $0.07 which is about average.
It would have been far lower if more people had been playing.

Estimated JP at time of win? 150,500 based on average 12-hour increase prorated
Half of that is 75,250, so only about 4000 people playing


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Galador82
Joined: 29.06.2010

Was so happy it popped this morning because I am going abroad on work and will not be able to keep the 12 hour interval rule so made it just in time with the best payout and ROI ever


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Well done both.


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Marc4468
Joined: 17.12.2006

Not that i wouldn't begrudge you guys that nice payout, but letting us german players pay in the jackpot and excluding us without any compensation is kinda annoying. But maybe they gave me my compensation in terms of running hot this month :f_biggrin:


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by Marc4468
Not that i wouldn't begrudge you guys that nice payout, but letting us german players pay in the jackpot and excluding us without any compensation is kinda annoying. But maybe they gave me my compensation in terms of running hot this month :f_biggrin:
I hope so, but if I understand things correctly, it was German law that caused PokerStars to end this promo for German players.
I doubt we'll ever truly know the real reason


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Hausierer
Joined: 10.05.2005

Sure it is German law. They want to make sure the valuable coins end in the Slots and not in the very harmful addicting "The Deal".

The government takes good care about us.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by Hausierer
The government takes good care about us.

Yeah, it is very weird.
Most governments make a big deal about "responsible gaming" or some such, yet they permit promos that actively encourage excessive play.
"The Deal" does no such thing, yet it's banned


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Hausierer
Joined: 10.05.2005

When it comes to gambling governments first make sure how they can fill their pockets the most effective way. I'm quite sure the reasons they tell us why they do certain things like gambling addictions, player protection etc they absolutely don't give a shit about it :|


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by Hausierer
I'm quite sure the reasons they tell us why they do certain things like gambling addictions, player protection etc they absolutely don't give a shit about it :|
Agreed — the real reason governments do things is that a bunch of people who know next to nothing about the situation agree that the action will look good in the press.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

If I look how it's going in the Netherlands. There is now more gambling promotion on the television since I can't play on PokerStars. That's a bad side effect of the regularlation.


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Marc4468
Joined: 17.12.2006

Originally posted by SDK1987
If I look how it's going in the Netherlands. There is now more gambling promotion on the television since I can't play on PokerStars. That's a bad side effect of the regularlation.

didn't know there were changes in the Netherlands. Although i actually don't remember if i've ever seen any netherland players on pokerstars...:f_confused: Only Belgium.

What kind of advertising? For slot machine halls?


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Poker is legal in NL, however existing poker rooms must apply for a license to operate in that market
See https://www.pokerstrategy.com/news/world-of-poker/PokerStars-exits-the-Dutch-market_119831/ from October of last year.

If PokerStars has applied for a license, I can't find any record of it online.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I can't play on PokerStars anymore since 1 oktober, but maybe it will change soon.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by SDK1987
I can't play on PokerStars anymore since 1 oktober, but maybe it will change soon.

At the end of March, six months had passed since the ban, which is ample time for PokerStars to get the application in.

Hopefully soon...


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

We will see. I don't think it will, but time will tell.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

I just did a quick search, and could find nothing that would indicate that PokerStars is moving toward a valid NL license


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Me ether, but patience will be key for me. It's to bad I lost all my star coins and I can even get some tickets for the SCOOP that I can't use.


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