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JTo in BB vs UTG min-raise 200BB Deep

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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

No reads and only hands on UTG
When deep stacked, I will call much wider — and I especially call min-raises from BB

What is the best flop play?
I chose to check call, even though I have a piece of the flop and an open-ender.
Should this be a raise?

Pacific Poker - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $2.84
SB: $6.33
Hero (BB): $10.65
UTG: $9.02
MP: $1.88
CO: $25.29

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has J♠:T♥:

UTG raises to $0.10, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.05

Flop: ($0.22, 2 players) Q♠:T♣:9♥:
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.10, Hero calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.42, 2 players) J♦:
Hero ??? <<<what on earth do I do now?


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

vs UTG open, JTo on BB is call 33%, fold 67%.

I personally do not flat that hand on BB at 100BBESS vs UTG(may be 10% flat?) and I wouldn't flat it deep either because I have to believe it has some RIO.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by Dr1fter808
vs UTG open, JTo on BB is call 33%, fold 67%.

I personally do not flat that hand on BB at 100BBESS vs UTG(may be 10% flat?) and I wouldn't flat it deep either because I have to believe it has some RIO.

the ESS is close to 200BB — does that make a difference?
I've always been looser deeper


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

For 200bb effective I wouldn't mind the call against a min raise, but than you need to be careful post-flop.

As played I would call the flop with middle pair and the straight draw as well for 10c more and check to the aggressor on the turn. If you raise the flop you get only action of better.

Turn is tricky card for you, but I prefer to check to the aggressor and re-evaluate on further action. Leading is a weird move and is tough to get value or a better hand to fold.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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pokerplayernumber1
Joined: 05.06.2010

I would play the same, turn is xf


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by pokerplayernumber1
I would play the same, turn is xf

OK thanks.
I led the turn actually, and got called.
I majorly sucked out here.
What is beginning to puzzle me is that the hands I win are the ones I should have folded :coolface:

Here is how it played out:

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Pacific Poker - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $2.84
SB: $6.33
Hero (BB): $10.65
UTG: $9.02
MP: $1.88
CO: $25.29

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has J♠:T♥:

UTG raises to $0.10, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.05

Flop: ($0.22, 2 players) Q♠:T♣:9♥:
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.10, Hero calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.42, 2 players) J♦:
Hero bets $0.27, UTG calls $0.27

River: ($0.96, 2 players) T♦:
Hero bets $0.31, UTG calls $0.31

Hero shows J♠:T♥: (Full House, Tens full of Jacks)
(Pre 45%, Flop 77%, Turn 13%)
UTG shows A♣:8♥: (Straight, Queen High)
(Pre 55%, Flop 23%, Turn 88%)
Hero wins $1.49
Rake paid $0.09


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LMcrow
Joined: 15.08.2006

GTO wise its x/c with somewhat 70% + Freq on the turn, but i would probably prefer x/f ( i checked it in solver )


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

River bet could be around half pot for value with the full house I think.


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Vampiir142
Joined: 01.10.2017

I would call preflop - he is minibeting 2bb, you have good pot ods, you can call close to any 2 cards.
On the flop x/ bluff rise - UTG open lot of combination with K - AKso, KQso, KTs+ or pairs 99, TT, JJ, QQ, KK, AA you are blocking J + T.
On the turn x/call up the 50%, fold to 50%+.


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