A5s 20bb 18 man

Both push and iso/f are fine. I think it depends on the blinds most. If they are very tight then I would choose the latter.

I would try to isolate the limper with a 3x raise and fold to a shove. 18bb is still to much to shove with, but it's not a big deal ether if you shove against passive villains.

Cheers,
SDK1987

Personally I'm not a big fan of this push. It's most likely +EV/+$EV, but for me it's way too slightly +, so it will increase your variance way too much.

With this stack I would play raise/fold or just fold against unknown opponents, but against too tight opponents the push is okay too.

For the ~400 bet size I would say I would never raise more than 360 here if folding to 3bet or giving up the hand postflop is an option. I don't see more fold equity in that ~40 chips, so I would save them in this situation.

360 (4,5x) is already way to big with this stack dynamic. This way you invest around 25% of your stack and than you are almost pot committed if 1 of them will shove on you.

Originally posted by SDK1987
360 (4,5x) is already way to big with this stack dynamic. This way you invest around 25% of your stack and than you are almost pot committed if 1 of them will shove on you.

You are right, it was a mistake. Although I wrote the wrong number and I meant 320, that's already a quite big portion of the stack. What do you think, would 240 (3x) be enough to generate fold equity, or would that be too little and offers too good odds for the opponents?

240 is pretty nice sizing.

If we had like 15bb I would shove but more than that start to be awkward for shove imo.

3x is fine. Especially in position. Out of position I would raise more and shove earlier as well.