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A3s on BTN, 3way SRP, big draw misses, AI river bluff

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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

The villain is 23/20/af3.0/3B:12, 2.3K hands

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 131.12 BB
SB: 424.66 BB
BB: 102.5 BB
UTG: 123.5 BB
MP: 161.46 BB
CO: 108.08 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♣ 3♣

fold, MP raises to 2 BB, fold, Hero calls 2 BB, fold, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 3 players) 2♣ 4♥ T♥
BB checks, MP bets 2 BB, Hero calls 2 BB, BB raises to 10.04 BB, fold, Hero calls 8.04 BB

Turn: (28.58 BB, 2 players) 8♣
BB bets 35.3 BB, Hero calls 35.3 BB

River: (99.18 BB, 2 players) J♥
BB checks, Hero bets 83.78 BB and is all-in

I got sticky on this one. Maybe turn is fold.

When I saw the river card I started getting ideas.

Thoughts?


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Well in my mind flop might be best to fold? A might not be good and we only have 3 nut outs and 1 out from bd fd. But I would not be surprised if we want to call this to have some bluffs on later streets.

Turn is sort of mandatory call. I am kind of more happy to call this than most heart combos as implied odds for hitting bd fd are way better.

River is also mandatory bluff to me. Our range is either reasonable made hand bluff catching turn that would now mostly check river or combo draw. River completes most likely draw so this is now very good bluff spot. We could have like A♥:T♠: kind of combo but not sure if turning tptk into bluff would make any sense? Just pointing out we probably don't have that much single heart combos to use as bluff.


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by ghaleon
Well in my mind flop might be best to fold? A might not be good and we only have 3 nut outs and 1 out from bd fd. But I would not be surprised if we want to call this to have some bluffs on later streets.

Turn is sort of mandatory call. I am kind of more happy to call this than most heart combos as implied odds for hitting bd fd are way better.

River is also mandatory bluff to me. Our range is either reasonable made hand bluff catching turn that would now mostly check river or combo draw. River completes most likely draw so this is now very good bluff spot. We could have like A♥:T♠: kind of combo but not sure if turning tptk into bluff would make any sense? Just pointing out we probably don't have that much single heart combos to use as bluff.

It seems that way to me too. What am I gonna do check back? Which seems LOL to me.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

River you can only win with bluffing, but I would only do it with decent reads on the villain in this hand.

Normally I would fold the flop already with 3 clean outs for a straight and backdoor flush draw.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by SDK1987
River you can only win with bluffing, but I would only do it with decent reads on the villain in this hand.

Normally I would fold the flop already with 3 clean outs for a straight and backdoor flush draw.

Cheers,
SDK1987

This V is capable of big folds, that I do know.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

That makes bluffing more interesting I think.


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Klindtmariana
Joined: 03.07.2022

Generalmente un loco farolea en el River pero si vas en más del 70% de los casos perderás y eso me pasa muy a menudo


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by Klindtmariana
Generalmente un loco farolea en el River pero si vas en más del 70% de los casos perderás y eso me pasa muy a menudo

I thought the villain is from Belgium. Who is this guy?


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

It was a long tank before the V folded but it makes sense to fold there because the reason why you bet so HUGE is to charge the draws and when the obvious draw gets there you are going to pay it off? I don't think so.

In other words, we almost have two draws, the Hearts and the Clubs. The Clubs will get you paid while the Hearts will get you folds.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 131.12 BB
SB: 424.66 BB
BB: 102.5 BB
UTG: 123.5 BB
MP: 161.46 BB
CO: 108.08 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♣ 3♣

fold, MP raises to 2 BB, fold, Hero calls 2 BB, fold, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 3 players) 2♣ 4♥ T♥
BB checks, MP bets 2 BB, Hero calls 2 BB, BB raises to 10.04 BB, fold, Hero calls 8.04 BB

Turn: (28.58 BB, 2 players) 8♣
BB bets 35.3 BB, Hero calls 35.3 BB

River: (99.18 BB, 2 players) J♥
BB checks, Hero bets 83.78 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 95.18 BB


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Originally posted by Dr1fter808

Originally posted by Klindtmariana
Generalmente un loco farolea en el River pero si vas en más del 70% de los casos perderás y eso me pasa muy a menudo

I thought the villain is from Belgium. Who is this guy?

I guess he lives in a Spanish speaking country.


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by SDK1987

Originally posted by Dr1fter808

Originally posted by Klindtmariana
Generalmente un loco farolea en el River pero si vas en más del 70% de los casos perderás y eso me pasa muy a menudo

I thought the villain is from Belgium. Who is this guy?

I guess he lives in a Spanish speaking country.

It appears that way. I read the translation. It makes sense to me. I think I would fold there too.


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jiffybag
Joined: 21.12.2010

In other words, we almost have two draws, the Hearts and the Clubs. The Clubs will get you paid while the Hearts will get you folds.

I like the way you put this. It didn't work when I tried:facepalm: But I like the way you put this.


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TonLoef
Joined: 31.08.2022

I don't agree.
The Flop is the most important moment of the game.
Of course it depends the place your sitting, and what the other players do during that part of the match.
If possible, I want to see the flop.
When the stakes are not to high, I will even play with a bad hand.
Understand that there is NOT a standard way of playing this game.
Expect the unexpected ! It's known that a hand of Aces (AA) no guaranty gives for winning the pot.
But......... playing or talking about poker is at it self a different factor.
Some call it tacktic, others call it stupidity. You even can call it a style.
Let me call it a secret !!. At the table, You don't discusse your hand with each other !!


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Vampiir142
Joined: 01.10.2017

If he had hearts I think he would rerise only Ahxh, or he rerise 2 pairs, set.
Turn is brinking second flush, but he still beting, so it looks 2 pairs or set.
On the turn with 3rd hearts it giving sence for big bet.


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