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PLO50 AJT7ds 3way 3bet pot, low flop with mediocre hit

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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

No specific reads on villains. CO had limped few times and well his line indicate obviously recreational player. BU had been pretty tight looking preflop. No reads about postflop.

Hand is clear 3bet pre and we get 3way 3bet pot. As default I check my whole range here. Versus half pot bet I think call is only option.

Turn I were planning to x-f. On river I thought if I should check and hope 7 is good or would it make sense to turn hand into bluff? I think we can get overpairs to fold. We do block boats which villain could also check but tighter player probably wont have those that often. So I felt like bluffing with half pot to get overpairs to fold would be best? I dont think any trips+ is folding. Plus of course if I check villain might bluff me off with busted draw.

Game #1712597779: Table €50 PL - 0.25/0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha - 16:29:42 2022/07/31
Seated players
Seat 1: Aethereal (€70.14)
Seat 2: TooTiiMaj (€36.32)
Seat 3: Milopa (€80.34)
Seat 4: Taptaltidag (€50.75)
Seat 5: monopolyz (€341.74)
Seat 6: Wlochaty (€59.68)
Blinds and button
Aethereal has the button
TooTiiMaj posts small blind €0.25
Milopa posts big blind €0.50
Hole cards
Dealt to Milopa 7♥:A♥:T♠:J♠:
Preflop
Taptaltidag folds
monopolyz folds
Wlochaty calls €0.50
Aethereal raises €2.25 to €2.25
TooTiiMaj folds
Milopa raises €7 to €7.50
Wlochaty calls €7
Aethereal calls €5.25
Flop 7♠:4♠:5♥: (22.75€)
Milopa checks
Wlochaty checks
Aethereal bets €11.37
Milopa calls €11.37
Wlochaty folds
Turn 5♦: (45.49€)
Milopa checks
Aethereal checks
River 6♣: (45.49€)
Milopa bets €22.74


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Padelbro
Joined: 21.01.2010

Flop is 3 way, so villain has something when he bets. What do you think his range is when stabbing?

2prs, sets, straights, FDs and straightdraws. Do you think OP with FD will bet or take a card? (AA+FD not possible obviously )

Also you said that trips+ wont fold, and I agree a straight has hard time folding. It's just that people will think more often 3bettor has missed FD than random low FD.

Now that there is 4card straight on board I think this isnt the best possible spot for a bluff. I think villain will have a hand more often than we get a fold. Plus sides he cant bluff with missed draw and maybe he will fold 3x straight if he is really tight (but then is he even playing such hand or stabbing flop? )


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

I think he can have fair amount of those overpair+FD combos as ton of my range just has to x-f in this spot. AAxx included. So especially if he has nut fd risk of x-r also goes down a lot.

Should we continue on flop without bd fd as support?

River is definitely not spot where I would bluff often but I think this hand is perhaps reasonable one. 7 and unblocking high spades definitely good sides. But yeah 8 would also be nice addition.

PS: Yeah it's late. 7 and 8 obviously means we have straight :)


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

I would like the bluff more, if river was a blank.

You call, which means that you have set, 2 pairs+draw or flush draw. And I think your 3bet range is heavily weighted towards flush draws. Therefore your river range should have way more missed draws than boats, and with straight you probably check (maybe 89 bets).

In his flop bet range there are almost always a straight, straight draw or a set/2p. Some bluffs are NFD+something with board or 66 blockers (rare to have in solid 3bet range). Majority of that range doesn't fold on the river. If he has 76/64+fd etc he would fold, but you already beat half of those. In my experience average Joe doesn't fold a straight there to one bet, when your hand looks like a fd to most people in 3bet pot.

What would you (Ghaleon) estimate his flop bet range is there?


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