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[PLO2] KQJ9s 3way from SB

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efkay
Joined: 25.03.2005

villains unknown. do we 3bet preflop? what is the plan for flop?

PokerStars - $0.02 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

BB: $1.84 (92 bb)
UTG: $2.10 (105 bb)
CO: $2.96 (148 bb)
BTN: $1.98 (99 bb)
Hero (SB): $3.17 (158.5 bb)

Hero posts SB $0.01, BB posts $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has J♠: K♠: 9♣: Q♥:
UTG calls $0.02, fold, BTN raises to $0.09, Hero raises to $0.31, fold, UTG calls $0.29, BTN calls $0.22

Flop: ($0.95, 3 players) 5♣: 7♦: K♣:
Hero


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Its reasonable to 3bet pre though I think both call and 3bet are close in EV. Flop is imo bit awkward with SPR 2 3way. If it was HU with bit deeper SPR I would not mind bet-folding for half pot. Here that option doesnt feel great and I dont really love potting either. So I would probably check. Easy fold if both villains show interest. But what to do e.g. if UTG check and BU bets? Not sure if x-f is too weak but that might be best.

Two of my favorite options would be x-f at least to big bet or pot and stack off. If flop was rainbow I would just pot happily.


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BradNitt
Joined: 22.07.2011

even against one bet i think xf is most solid option as we just hoping that it will gonna get checked down but its more like that we invest chips in a scenario where we have to check/call- check/fold most likely way too often

pre i would also say fold>call>3bet
and if we want 3bet some kx rundowns then always with a ten for best connectivity possibilities


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efkay
Joined: 25.03.2005

wow, I still have to tighten up I had a look at a chart I hafe from 2019 MM. OBV specific scenario is not given but I had another look at from SB vs CO RFI + BU coldcall. of course not exactly the same but BUs isorange should fit a CO RFI range in general and while BU coldcalling range should be tighter than a simple openlimp range it is the closest idea I can get.

chart says we call the top 5% of SS Rundowns KQJT-5432 fold the rest, never 3bet. I will improve on this one time.

Flop thoughts where like: My range has quite some KK, I also block KK, have a flushblocker and 3 sideovers so I went for the half pot cbet because I would love to turn top2 or even better see 2 folds. following actoin was so quick I saw myself behind vs AK already so I folded but then I was worried if I wasnt comitted already so lets see:

Flop: ($0.95, 3 players) 5♣: 7♦: K♣:
Hero bets $0.46, UTG raises to $1.79 and is all-in, BTN calls $1.67 and is all-in, Hero folds

Turn: ($4.75, 2 players) 2♦:

River: ($4.75, 2 players) 7♠:

Results: $4.75 pot ($0.16 rake)
Final Board: 5♣: 7♦: K♣: 2♦: 7♠:

UTG shows 5♠: A♠: 8♦: 9♥:: (Two Pair, Sevens and Fives)
(Pre 45%, Flop 23%, Turn 17%)

BTN shows 3♦: A♣: K♦: 6♣:: (Two Pair, Kings and Sevens)
(Pre 55%, Flop 77%, Turn 83%)

BTN wins $4.59

I need 21,5% to call so this might be breakeven call but I also did not expect UTG to broke this light so I loose another 1-2% when tighten up the range of player 1. I really need to register for pokerjuice again because now I have a feeling that pot/call might be +EV here mostly obv to make them fold.


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ZakYoun270
Joined: 10.12.2015

pre is good, flop i think we should check see what happens


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

How would bd fd affect our approach in this spot? X-c versus one bet?


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BradNitt
Joined: 22.07.2011

against btn bet or any kind of pot size bet its folding
if utg stabs half, btn folds and we are guaranteed to have a hu turn then check/call could be possible


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Mascherano95
Joined: 09.10.2010

In literature the oldies always include that perfect rundowns into their 3bet range but Solver usually does not reraise unpaired singlesuited stuff at all. I would follow the modern approach and just call pre.

Flop cbet half pot is standard.


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