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Did I overplay it? No3

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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

The villain is 28/21/af2.0/3B:9/ATTSTL:39, 788 hands

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 103.2 BB
SB: 107.25 BB
Hero (BB): 147.29 BB
UTG: 215.54 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 101 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 3♥ 3♦

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 3♠ A♥ 7♣
SB bets 1.88 BB, Hero calls 1.88 BB

Turn: (9.76 BB, 2 players) 9♠
SB bets 6.95 BB, Hero raises to 32.9 BB, SB calls 25.95 BB

River: (75.56 BB, 2 players) J♥
SB checks, Hero bets 103.75 BB, SB calls 69.47 BB and is all-in

Spoiler

Hero shows 3♥ 3♦ (Three of a Kind, Threes)
(Pre 47%, Flop 94%, Turn 82%)
SB shows T♣ 8♣ (Straight, Jack High)
(Pre 53%, Flop 6%, Turn 18%)
SB wins 212 BB

Thoughts?


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SvenBe
Joined: 19.04.2006

You did not overplay
More important here would be the take-away from villains betsizing:
bet tiny if you have shit, bet bigger turn if you picked up something.

Also, not considering 3betting pre as you have positional advantage and the general population plays rather straight forward here? Or do you have the impression you need to fire multiple barrels even in 3bet pots?


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by SvenBe
You did not overplay
More important here would be the take-away from villains betsizing:
bet tiny if you have shit, bet bigger turn if you picked up something.

Also, not considering 3betting pre as you have positional advantage and the general population plays rather straight forward here? Or do you have the impression you need to fire multiple barrels even in 3bet pots?

Yeah, that's note worthy stuff, I think I will write that down for next time.

Ah, fire multiple barrels? No, not always.


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kacsa1st
Joined: 09.02.2007

i like your play.

ofc you can start raising flop. most ppl cbet 100% flops like this but can't defend vs aggression with the proper frequency so we can attack their weakness quite wide and if we do so we need strong hands in that range too.

"More important here would be the take-away from villains betsizing:
bet tiny if you have shit, bet bigger turn if you picked up something."

this is kinda std sizing scheme. only take notes if he bet other size with Ax+ OTF


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kacsa1st
Joined: 09.02.2007

i'd rather take a note that he is quite a CS with weak draws!!!


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by kacsa1st
i'd rather take a note that he is quite a CS with weak draws!!!

Before the hand even began, I had him marked as Pink which means loose/weak so he did something before.

So, yeah, him bet/calling/chasing SD with the Spades out is kind of note worthy also.


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pokerplayernumber1
Joined: 05.06.2010

You didn't oveplayed, villain did


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Seems well played. Lucky run out of the villain in this hand.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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EmiyaKiritsugu
Joined: 13.08.2013

More important here would be the take-away from villains betsizing:
bet tiny if you have shit, bet bigger turn if you picked up something.

yy?
His line is kinda normal. He may have strategy to bet 1/3 on flop or check. Then bet big or oven overbet is sizing we should use on turn as we usually want to start polarising. I dont think you have enough information to determine that he is adjusting sizing to strength of hand, not his strategy. You would need to see that he uses big sizing on dry texture with strong hand.

Anyway its SB vs BB SRP spot - shoving there set on relatively safe river is not even close to be 'thin'.


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ZakYoun270
Joined: 10.12.2015

nope it is fine. could raise flop too but over all i like the way u played it.


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Vampiir142
Joined: 01.10.2017

All street same, only on the river I would check back.


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bumblebtuna
Joined: 14.08.2022

Sorry, but I think the river may be over played. It's hard to think V has the nuts by the river but they have it some frequency of the time, and our hand has gone down from 3rd best hand on flop to 5th (6th if JJ gets to river). I'm struggling to see what worse hands a tight player is calling you with at this point given the large turn bet and the river shove. A7s,A9s,AJs (like 7 combos)? I'm unconvinced a tight player calls a shove on AK/AQ/AT, and AQ, AT may not call the turn bet. So on the river your getting called on a shove for sure by 9 combos of better sets for sure AA,77,99 lets say 1 combo of T8s and 1 JJ combo on the off chance V makes a bad call.

It's not looking like a good shove to me. Perhaps bet less on the river? Maybe raise flop, bet turn, x/c river? Any thoughts on all this?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Villain has less than a pot size bet left on the river. I don't think shoving is to bad. Villain shouldn't have many draws on the turn after the huge raise. You could think of raising the flop as well, but a set didn't need to much protection on a dry flop like this.


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