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$2 Turbo 18Man - 99 on the River

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adasko99
Joined: 13.02.2011

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PokerStars - 50/100 Ante 15 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 9,745
MP+1: 4,680
CO: 5,000
BTN: 5,035
SB: 9,740
BB: 4,985
Hero (UTG): 4,985
UTG+1: 5,225

8 players post ante of 15, SB posts SB 50, BB posts BB 100

Pre Flop: (pot: 270) Hero has 9♥ 9♣

Hero raises to 300, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 200

Flop: (770, 2 players) 6♣ K♦ Q♠
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (770, 2 players) 4♣
BB bets 254, Hero calls 254

River: (1,278, 2 players) Q♥
BB bets 1,850, Hero?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Against a over bet on the river I would fold against a unknown with only a bluff catcher. Sometimes you could think of Cbetting the flop, but otherwise I would play the same way you did.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

This is very reasonable bluff catch versus competent player but question is if we can expect average micro stake player bluffing enough with overbets? I heavily doubt so fold would be advisable. But theory wise we should understand that for our range Kx is very rare, some AQ, QJ are possible. 99 is not blocking JT or flush draws so we would need to find call with some of these type of hands assuming villain bluffing frequency would be reasonable.


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adasko99
Joined: 13.02.2011

thanks :f_pleased:

But theory wise we should understand that for our range Kx is very rare, some AQ, QJ are possible

do you mean our perceived range that villain might put us on after we didn't CBet Flop and just called Turn?


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

When we open UTG 8 handed our range is fairly tight. At widest we perhaps have like KTs or KJs as bottom? We would likely cbet hands like AK, AA, KJ, KQ, QQ fair amount of time. KK actually make really nice flop check as we block villain continuation range so much.

But yeah in general player in heroes shoes likely wont think about protecting check range. I suppose we can also argue of cbetting whole range with like 1/3 pot cbet as KQ hit our tight range a lot. That way we dont need to think about how weak our check range is.

For river call issue is that most of player pool doesnt really think about opponents ranges or their own ranges. They mainly play their own hand and in this one villain likely has Qx+ very often.


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adasko99
Joined: 13.02.2011

Thanks, ok so if I understand correctly:

* at those stakes, readless Fold is better
* vs a competent reg call is ok

Is that right? :f_pleased:


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