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PLO50 K976ds 3bet pot postflop double barrel?

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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Small sample but villain had been open raising very often and did overcall from BB at one point with 9764r so seemed to play way too many hands. My hand is pretty standard 3bet. I think flop is one we cbet overall fairly often and my hand is perhaps just good enough? Feels bit nasty to x-f and obviously not good enough to x-c.

Turn is interesting. SPR is 1.8. Its obviously quite good card for my hand but might also improve villain. Though fair amount of J9 might also raise flop. Spade opening is not good though. So should we commit with potting or check and see if we get free or cheap enough river?

One issue is that I dont really know how much this guy is ready to fold.

Game #1818892994: Table €50 PL - 0.25/0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha - 19:03:18 2023/02/02
Seated players
Seat 1: T0uchMyNuts (€49.97)
Seat 2: Hamburgare (€192.33)
Seat 3: Maunad (€52.65)
Seat 4: Olivier19742 (€50)
Seat 6: babygo (€16.77)
Blinds and button
Hamburgare has the button
Maunad posts small blind €0.25
Olivier19742 posts big blind €0.50
Hole cards
Dealt to Maunad 9♦:K♣:7♣:6♦:
Preflop
babygo folds
T0uchMyNuts folds
Hamburgare raises €1.75 to €1.75
Maunad raises €5.50 to €5.75
Olivier19742 folds
Hamburgare calls €4
Flop Q♠:T♥:3♣: (12€)
Maunad bets €6
Hamburgare calls €6
Turn 8♠: (24€)
Maunad?


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efkay
Joined: 25.03.2005

I like the flop cbet because we can make better hands like A high, low pockets fold, have gutter+bdfd and wouldnt mind folding to a raise. on this flop structure I feel like we dont cbet heavily but I guess this is one of those hands we want to stab.

turn is indeed interesting. dont take my word for granted here but I feel like with the straightblocker pairs and maybe 2pairs will have a hard time calling off and if they do we also have bottom wrap outs so not completely crushed.

on the other side I dont see any EV of checking without any SDV and we wont continue turn vs a decent sized bet. I pull the trigger


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ColorFlusher
Joined: 19.01.2008

The main problem here is that we aren't blocking any of the main cards (QJT) or spades on that board. Bluffing this turn seems like we are going to bluff our entire range and it shouldn't be like that. I think there are better hands to bluff with.


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efkay
Joined: 25.03.2005

you remove some combos that include QJT by holding K9. why do you think we bluff our entire range OTT?


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ColorFlusher
Joined: 19.01.2008

Doesn't our entire range block some of the cards on this turn? So if we decide to bet any sort of blockers, we basicly end up betting close to our full range that is too wide. So the question is what are we giving up if not this?


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efkay
Joined: 25.03.2005

K876d, couple of Aces, Kings, doublepaired/doublesuited pocket pairs <Q, I dont see myself cbetting 100% OTT


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

I don't personally have pot-folding range here. Though perhaps preferable bet size overall would be half pot. That way we can include some bluffs with better blocker value but less equity. Which could act as bet-fold turn but triple barrel blank rivers.

Yeah I think this was bit too wide turn barrel from me. I don't mind it on rainbow turn card as we have decent amount of equity versus two pairs and sets.

Sort of interestingly villain had QQ66ss and while slowplaying top set is a thing I would focus on using ones that has some sort of straightening blocker components. Dry top set like that should imo just raise flop. But yeah he got it in as 70% favourite and did block two of my outs.


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ColorFlusher
Joined: 19.01.2008

Yeah I don't think there should be pot-folding range here. By giving up I meant check-folding the turn. If the hand is checked to river then we can realize some of our equity. It's tempting to 3-barrel bluff dynamic boards like this but a bit better blockers/draws would be ideal.


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Vampiir142
Joined: 01.10.2017

For me is maginal 3B, on the turn we OESD, block only K st8, no any FD blocker, no any pair. So than chceck / fold or pot rise - depend of opponent if he could fold no made hands.


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