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[PLO25] K764d 3bet pot OOP

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efkay
Joined: 25.03.2005

in the past I usually dont explain my thoughts because I always felt like that influences hand reviews but on this one I make an exception to see if there is no thought totally wrong.

villain unknown, site is ACR and in general the pool is way more TAGish than the past stakes I played on stars. I'm on 30% cbet turn for a couple of thousand hands now and that is one thing I took away from HM3 analysis to have more focus on in the next time.

Yatahay Network - $0.25 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 4 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

BTN: $32.30 (129.2 bb)
Hero (SB): $25.00 (100 bb)
BB: $14.76 (59 bb)
CO: $34.39 (137.6 bb)

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 7♦: 6♣: K♦: 4♣:
fold, BTN raises to $0.85, Hero raises to $2.80, fold, BTN calls $1.95

I think preflop is ok

Flop: ($5.85, 2 players) 3♥: A♠: T♠:
Hero bets $2.92, BTN calls $2.92

I have a high cbet frequency here in general and I think that is fine. handwise I of course dont really like this flop that much. I just hope to see a quick takedown first and foremost. I have no SDV at all so Im really happy if I can takedown the pot. I dont block anything at all besides straightdraws. I usually play pot or 1/2 here and I decided to go for half pot because if he has some Ace or flushdraw I dont think he will fold to a potbet so I decided for the cheap option. One reason why I dont fell like I have much FE here is due to position SB vs BU that usually has one of the highest 3bet% range

Turn: ($11.69, 2 players) 2♦:
Hero bets $11.69, BTN raises to $26.58 and is all-in, Hero folds

I unblock flushdraws, block the lower wheel and didnt pull the trigger enough according to my HM analysis so I went for it here. fold to the shove feels super awkward ($7.59 left) but what can I do, I need aroung 20% for the call and dont even have it vs a single ace. I have a feeling in this hand that I might have pulled the trigger to loose due to the fact that my SBvBTN 3bet range is very high and people aint scared at all OTT when facing a 2nd bet. When I think about 1/2 cbet instead I dislike because with any good made hand or draw I wont ever just play half pot unless Im really trapping super strong hands obv.

Results: $35.07 pot ($1.51 rake)
Final Board: 3♥: A♠: T♠: 2♦:

BTN wins $33.32

TL;DR: I have a feeling I dont get too much credit for turn cbets due to high 3bet range SB vs BU. true?


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

I would just fold preflop and be very critical with these kind of 3bets. Preferably all three low cards perfectly connected and bit higher than this, e.g. K876ds. Not sure if this is gto 3bet but I would guess its really borderline at best.

Flop we can cbet wide but I would not go quite range betting. Flop is fairly drawy with fd and AT. Also A3 can hit some wraps for BU range though its rare. Our hand has basically nothing going on in either terms of equity or blockers. So just go into x-f mode imo. We would need something to block stuff from villain like Tx at minimum. Preferably also bdfd or high spade.


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BradNitt
Joined: 22.07.2011

k764 would be fold at any stake except plo5k calls K♠:4♠:7♥:6♥: for -0.49bb


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Mascherano95
Joined: 09.10.2010

I have that too low c-bet frequency leak too but otf.

Yes. K764ds is pretty wide already I think.. The K-high rundowns are quite a bit weaker than those with Ace so better perfect three-card runners only. But It is not a big deal imo.

I think the flop c-bet is great. We are betting 100% here, actually easy theorywise but sometimes I do overlook that ingame. Sizing is fine too. We can bet pot here aswell, both sizings make sense.

But with 0% we should not make a second-barrel but give up and check-fold turn. Looks pretty crazy at SPR1 but that´s PLO. Solver is check-folding 100% = ALL combos with A,T,54,33,22,32,T2,T3 and flushdraws excluded.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

As said, K764ds is a clear fold. As in these stakes we shouldn't count BTN to fold much to 3bets, the threshold with these types of hands should be somewhere around KT97ds. If the 3 card rundown is connected, we can 3bet K876ds and better from solver perspective. But even then the EV is about the same as with a call. As we should have postflop edge, EV of a call comes better. As result, I would say that 3bet KT97ds or K987ds. Call with lower connected rundowns, and fold those gappers.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

For flop, cbet on A high flops HU after 3betting is mandatory. In Finland you get 3 months of jail if you check that (that goes for Ghaleon)!

Once opponent calls, he probably isn't going anywhere on blankish turn. So it's just bet flop and give up if called.


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Mascherano95
Joined: 09.10.2010

In Russia you get 5 years for it.


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Mascherano95
Joined: 09.10.2010

Congratz for joining NATO btw.


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aceonetheriver
Joined: 26.12.2008

If you notice that a player is consistently raising a high percentage of hands from the small blind, it may be an indication that they are trying to steal the pot or put pressure on you. In such situations, it may be wise to adjust your opening ranges and play more cautiously when out of position. Consider calling more often and avoiding marginal hands that can put you in tough spots post-flop.


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