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Dr1fter808
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Joined: 11.10.2017
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06.04.2023, 05:47

GG Poker - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 130.8 BB
BB: 27.6 BB
UTG: 107.6 BB
Hero (MP): 100 BB
CO: 112.7 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J♥ J♠

fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, CO calls 2 BB, BTN raises to 11 BB, fold, BB raises to 27.6 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, BTN calls 16.6 BB

It depends on how well the JJ will fare in a 3 way all in pot, or the chance of folding out the bigger stack preflop to go heads up, I will show results later to see the type of range we could be up against.

Thoughts?

Edit: typo


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LookAwayNow
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06.04.2023, 06:30

Depends on villains. We either jam or fold. If BTN is aggressive (squeeze-happy) and BB is a clown, I'm jamming.


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Dr1fter808
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06.04.2023, 06:35

Originally posted by LookAwayNow
Depends on villains. We either jam or fold. If BTN is aggressive (squeeze-happy) and BB is a clown, I'm jamming.

We just don't know at this point.


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LookAwayNow
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06.04.2023, 13:56

Then we have to fold unfortunately.


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mkBISCUIT
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06.04.2023, 14:27

its a fold or JAM...


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jiffybag
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06.04.2023, 15:49

Originally posted by mkBISCUIT
its a fold or JAM...

I agree. The thing with the short stack, they not always just shoving 2 random cards. And then there is still the BTNs range to consider. I think, and correct me if I am wrong if we had AK, this is a easy shove?


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NapoleonBonaparte135
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06.04.2023, 18:23

Yep i agree with the others jam or fold.

It depends on how well the JJ will fare in a 3 way all in pot

Sometimes gamble with JJ 3way is not that bad. There is a possibility that both villians hold his outs and you could be a decent favorite for winning the pot


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Dr1fter808
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07.04.2023, 09:56

Just to see the range:

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GG Poker - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 130.8 BB
BB: 27.6 BB
UTG: 107.6 BB
Hero (MP): 100 BB
CO: 112.7 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J♥ J♠

fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, CO calls 2 BB, BTN raises to 11 BB, fold, BB raises to 27.6 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, BTN calls 16.6 BB

Flop: (59.7 BB, 2 players) 3♣ 3♥ 7♦

Turn: (59.7 BB, 2 players) 9♥

River: (59.7 BB, 2 players) 5♥

BB shows A♥ K♥ (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 46%, Flop 28%, Turn 31%)
BTN shows 8♣ 8♥ (Two Pair, Eights and Threes)
(Pre 54%, Flop 72%, Turn 69%)
BB wins 55.3 BB


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DecMate
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07.04.2023, 13:33

I would fold. We've only invested 2bb. No point in flipping with no info.


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SDK1987
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07.04.2023, 13:56

Originally posted by NapoleonBonaparte135
Yep i agree with the others jam or fold.

It depends on how well the JJ will fare in a 3 way all in pot

Sometimes gamble with JJ 3way is not that bad. There is a possibility that both villians hold his outs and you could be a decent favorite for winning the pot

You forget that the 3better will fold a lot as well if hero shoves and I don't mind flipping against the BB and I wouldn't be surprised if the BB could shove hands like TT as well for 27bb.

Without reads I would most likely isolate the short stack.

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mkBISCUIT
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07.04.2023, 15:57

good play just unlucky run out.


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Dr1fter808
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08.04.2023, 05:32

Originally posted by mkBISCUIT
good play just unlucky run out.

Yeah, the way I see it, I shove then the BTN folds and the shorty triples up at the end. These are trivial spots.


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NapoleonBonaparte135
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08.04.2023, 11:14

then the BTN folds

I doubt that BTN folds AKs. It's a good gambling hand as well multiway pots. His price to call is not that bad


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SDK1987
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08.04.2023, 11:27

Originally posted by NapoleonBonaparte135

then the BTN folds

I doubt that BTN folds AKs. It's a good gambling hand as well multiway pots. His price to call is not that bad

Indeed. In this situation the BTN had 88 and that would be a optimistic call :f_wink:


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