Skip to forum
Notifications
Clear all

3-bet pot weak wrap second nuts on turn

7 Posts
4 Users
0 Reactions
296 Views
expandir
Joined: 07.08.2008

Hi guys,

Villain looks to me like a recreational who plays hit-or-fold (39/15 with 34 hands, no 3 bets, no Cbets out of 3 occasions, fold to Cbet 55% 5/9 occasions)

So, preflop is standard according to Jnandez (double suited rundown against EP RFI, he has the exact same example with different suits in his book), as it flops very smooth and doesn't benefit from multiway situations as it lacks nuttiness.

The flop looks good for me. I have a 12-card wrap with only 2 outs to the nuts (the 3 remaing 8s - diamond 8) if I counted the outs correctly.
I pot it as a semibluff to take it down right there and bluff made marginal hands like top pair or a jack/weak SD/FD.

The turn gives me the second nuts. To be honest, I just commited with the hand and hoped he would call it with worse, like a sticky FD, but I guess pot was too much.

Fold? What would he call me with in the flop and raise in the turn apart from the nuts? Could you give me some useful insight?

Thanks!

PokerStars - €0.50 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 331.9 BB
SB: 202.02 BB
BB: 80 BB
UTG: 130.66 BB
MP: 49.6 BB
Hero (CO): 128.3 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T♣ 7♦ 8♣ 9♦

UTG raises to 3.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 12 BB, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 8.5 BB

Flop: (25.5 BB, 2 players) J♦ Q♥ 5♦
UTG checks, Hero bets 24.22 BB, UTG calls 24.22 BB

Turn: (73.94 BB, 2 players) K♣
UTG checks, Hero bets 70.24 BB, UTG raises to 94.44 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 21.84 BB and is all-in

River: (258.1 BB, 2 players) 2♥

Spoiler

UTG shows T♥ J♥ A♣ 2♣ (Straight, Ace High)
(Pre 56%, Flop 43%, Turn 78%)
Hero shows T♣ 7♦ 8♣ 9♦ (Straight, King High)
(Pre 44%, Flop 57%, Turn 23%)
UTG wins 252.1 BB


Reply
Quote
6 replies
NoNameHypo
Joined: 28.04.2023

You are thinking about folding OTT with 24bb left? is that correct? Sorry, but that's insane...At least for me. Will see the other opinions, will be interesting...


Reply
Quote
expandir
Joined: 07.08.2008

I am thinking about other lines....


Reply
Quote
NoNameHypo
Joined: 28.04.2023

Ok, sorry then...I can't give valuable opinion. Imo seems fine..even more than "fine" for me, but what I do know...


Reply
Quote
ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Preflop is good 3bet versus anyone pretty much. Hand play great versus 4bet also. With ss version I would just call.

Flop we have fairly strong hand but we should be imo bit careful versus tight open range. There is fair amount of combos in solid range that have our hand in pretty bad shape. That said villain is recreational and their range construction is usually not that great.

Anyway I would say with 100bb stacks I would be happy to pot and put max pressure on villain. For reasons you mentioned that our raw equity is good overall but lacks nuttiness. With let's say 150+bb stacks I would prefer check and pot control for same reason. In our case both options seems reasonable.

Important point to notice in this spot though is that when villain just call he rarely has set or two pairs.

So on turn villain will have KK, KQ, KJ sometimes but mainly it's straight or fd. We do freeroll versus T9 and on this turn villain fd often comes with some support. Plus people tend to be too call happy anyway so I would say potting is best. We will still get enough action from weaker.

Villain shoving river can definitely have second nut straight or fd with support. So like KK or two pair as if he just calls river SPR is super small and he might not want to take chance of folding best hand. Maybe also some KKTJ type without fd.


Reply
Quote
expandir
Joined: 07.08.2008

Ok. Nice hand then. :)


Reply
Quote
Mascherano95
Joined: 09.10.2010

Well played.

We usually play half-pot in 3bp ip but with our specific hand I think pot-pot is best.


Reply
Quote