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Dr1fter808
Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017
Posts: 3,241
19.05.2023, 06:28

GG Poker - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 117.88 BB
SB: 116.6 BB
BB: 107 BB
Hero (UTG): 172.8 BB
MP: 107.12 BB
CO: 54.6 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♥ A♠

Hero raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 2 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (5.4 BB, 2 players) 7♠ J♥ 9♦
Hero checks, BTN bets 2.8 BB, Hero calls 2.8 BB

Turn: (11 BB, 2 players) 2♠
Hero checks, BTN bets 5.6 BB, Hero calls 5.6 BB

River: (22.2 BB, 2 players) 2♣
Hero bets 20 BB, BTN calls 20 BB

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Hero shows A♥ A♠ (Two Pair, Aces and Twos)
(Pre 84%, Flop 76%, Turn 70%)
BTN shows 6♠ J♠ (Two Pair, Jacks and Twos)
(Pre 16%, Flop 24%, Turn 30%)
Hero wins 57.72 BB

The villain is a rando.

I knew from doing sims that the river is also a check but I couldn't help myself, the beast within came out, if you will.

Thoughts?


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Dragar
Dragar
Joined: 09.09.2008
Posts: 2,590
19.05.2023, 07:21

I lead the flop here cause c-betting is so ingrained in me. Will try this line a bit more.

Would never be able to check the turn though. To many draws.

River is like 50/50 I guess, he calls with all jack, folds all bluffs and draws. Maybe bet lower to induce raise?
On the other hand if you check he may attempt to bluff, but a J checks behind.
So I guess both betting and checking works.


I play on GGpoker even though it says Pokerstars. None of my hand histories will have villain stats.

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Dr1fter808
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Joined: 11.10.2017
Posts: 3,241
19.05.2023, 15:47

Originally posted by Dragar
I lead the flop here cause c-betting is so ingrained in me. Will try this line a bit more.

Would never be able to check the turn though. To many draws.

River is like 50/50 I guess, he calls with all jack, folds all bluffs and draws. Maybe bet lower to induce raise?
On the other hand if you check he may attempt to bluff, but a J checks behind.
So I guess both betting and checking works.

I think solver wants you to check a lot so that opponent would bet more.

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GG Poker - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 126.44 BB
SB: 143.72 BB
BB: 100.32 BB
UTG: 224.92 BB
Hero (MP): 101.4 BB
CO: 123.48 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♦ A♥

fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (4.4 BB, 2 players) J♠ 5♠ Q♣
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (4.4 BB, 2 players) 2♣
BB bets 4.4 BB, Hero calls 4.4 BB

River: (13.2 BB, 2 players) 6♠
BB bets 12.4 BB, Hero calls 12.4 BB

BB shows T♦ 8♦ (High Card, Queen)
(Pre 20%, Flop 19%, Turn 9%)
Hero shows A♦ A♥ (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 80%, Flop 81%, Turn 91%)
Hero wins 34.72 BB


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SDK1987
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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008
Posts: 43,850
19.05.2023, 18:23

Against a random player I prefer Cbetting the flop for value and protection.
If you play it passive like this I would bluff catch the river as well. Off course you're lead looks weird and could get action of a jack, but all bluffs will fold for sure. I don't think AA is strong enough to induce a raise.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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