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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

GG Poker - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 104.28 BB
BB: 184.88 BB
UTG: 100 BB
Hero (MP): 148.04 BB
CO: 99.76 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q♥ Q♦

UTG raises to 2.52 BB, Hero raises to 7.56 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 5.04 BB

Flop: (16.52 BB, 2 players) 8♣ T♠ T♥
UTG checks, Hero bets 5.8 BB, UTG calls 5.8 BB

Turn: (28.12 BB, 2 players) Q♠
UTG checks, Hero bets 9.88 BB, UTG calls 9.88 BB

River: (47.88 BB, 2 players) 4♥
UTG checks, Hero bets 124.8 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 76.76 BB and is all-in

Spoiler

Hero shows Q♥ Q♦ (Full House, Queens full of Tens)
(Pre 82%, Flop 89%, Turn 100%)
UTG shows 9♥ 9♦ (Two Pair, Tens and Nines)
(Pre 18%, Flop 11%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins 196.92 BB

The villain is a reg.

Thoughts?


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jiffybag
Joined: 21.12.2010

The regs just don't believe you. What does V expect you to have here? AK AJs KJs? Can you post some of your bluffs getting called? Do you bluff the same with AK in this spot?

I asked Martai what he thinks of the regs call, here is what he said:

MartaiMrko — Today at 17:42
i would fold in this positions
and you can argue to fold the turn with turn such favorising him a lot
also reverse implayed odds
he can even bet JJ with this size, so I think you can fold the turn here
you are in trouble with 99 against all part of his range, and there is basically no good runouts for 99

MartaiMrko — Today at 17:54
he doesnt have AJo in the range, and generally people bluff with bigger size on this runout
my pool analysis shoves that smaller sizes IP are generally a lot stronger and are not used as bluffs that much

MartaiMrko — Today at 17:55
generally they bet for value or thiner for value-with smaller bets


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by jiffybag
The regs just don't believe you. What does V expect you to have here? AK AJs KJs? Can you post some of your bluffs getting called? Do you bluff the same with AK in this spot?

I asked Martai what he thinks of the regs call, here is what he said:

MartaiMrko — Today at 17:42
i would fold in this positions
and you can argue to fold the turn with turn such favorising him a lot
also reverse implayed odds
he can even bet JJ with this size, so I think you can fold the turn here
you are in trouble with 99 against all part of his range, and there is basically no good runouts for 99

MartaiMrko — Today at 17:54
he doesnt have AJo in the range, and generally people bluff with bigger size on this runout
my pool analysis shoves that smaller sizes IP are generally a lot stronger and are not used as bluffs that much

MartaiMrko — Today at 17:55
generally they bet for value or thiner for value-with smaller bets

I'm trying to rep hands like AsJs or AsKs. I don't think it makes much sense as a nutted range value betting on river.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Seems like villain doesn't like to fold, but in general I don't see a point in over bet shoving the river. If you want action of mid pairs it's better to bet smaller. Normal I would expect that you only action of trips or better with a over bet shove.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by SDK1987
Seems like villain doesn't like to fold, but in general I don't see a point in over bet shoving the river. If you want action of mid pairs it's better to bet smaller. Normal I would expect that you only action of trips or better with a over bet shove.

Cheers,
SDK1987

I don't think you should shove here. No one is gonna call you.


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NoNameHypo
Joined: 28.04.2023

Lol..Now we are talking...


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by SDK1987
Seems like villain doesn't like to fold, but in general I don't see a point in over bet shoving the river. If you want action of mid pairs it's better to bet smaller. Normal I would expect that you only action of trips or better with a over bet shove.

Cheers,
SDK1987

To give prospect, the villain absolutely snap called my shove, like he is calling a 2BB bet. I think he got up that morning determined to call my shove that day.


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