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mkjmkjmkj
Joined: 05.02.2012

i am not sure if i should bet small 1/3 or big pot on turn

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 107.2 BB
Hero (SB): 122 BB
BB: 456.8 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 101.4 BB
CO: 104.4 BB

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♥ K♣

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 10 BB, Hero raises to 24 BB, BB calls 14 BB

Flop: (48 BB, 2 players) 7♥ 3♥ A♠
Hero bets 16 BB, BB calls 16 BB

Turn: (80 BB, 2 players) 4♣
Hero bets 82 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 76.6 BB


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Pre-flop I would most likely make it at least 30bb out of position for 122bb effective. Than villain doesn't get decent odds to call in position and it will be easier to Cbet small on flop to get it in on the turn.

As played I would size up the flop to like 25bb and shove the turn. Than you don't need to over bet shove the turn like now.
As played I would Cbet turn around 25bb and shove the river with a little bit more than pot size behind with the nut flush blocker.

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SDK1987


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mkjmkjmkj
Joined: 05.02.2012

its only 107bb effective with 30bb 4bet i am almost committed to the pot i think on most flops
or am i wrong?


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EmiyaKiritsugu
Joined: 13.08.2013

Originally posted by SDK1987
Pre-flop I would most likely make it at least 30bb out of position for 122bb effective.

'effective' means how deep you are with your opponent. If you have 500bb and opponent 103bb then you are effectively 103bb deep, not 500 or some random number.

Originally posted by SDK1987
As played I would size up the flop to like 25bb and shove the turn. Than you don't need to over bet shove the turn like now.

Why bet half pot if we can just range bet for smaller sizing and simplify a lot our strategy?

Originally posted by SDK1987
As played I would Cbet turn around 25bb and shove the river with a little bit more than pot size behind with the nut flush blocker.

You wanted to bet big flop and shove turn but after small bet on flop you suddenly want to go for 3 streets?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Originally posted by EmiyaKiritsugu

Originally posted by SDK1987
Pre-flop I would most likely make it at least 30bb out of position for 122bb effective.

'effective' means how deep you are with your opponent. If you have 500bb and opponent 103bb then you are effectively 103bb deep, not 500 or some random number.

Originally posted by SDK1987
As played I would size up the flop to like 25bb and shove the turn. Than you don't need to over bet shove the turn like now.

Why bet half pot if we can just range bet for smaller sizing and simplify a lot our strategy?

Originally posted by SDK1987
As played I would Cbet turn around 25bb and shove the river with a little bit more than pot size behind with the nut flush blocker.

You wanted to bet big flop and shove turn but after small bet on flop you suddenly want to go for 3 streets?

The SB (Hero) is the effective stack in this hand. The rest of the players folding right away and the villain in the BB has a stack of 456,8bb. That makes the effective stack 122bb. I don't get it how a villain with 103bb stack that folded right away could be the effective stack.

I would try to get it in on 2 streets, but if hero bets a lot smaller like now you need to make a small turn to get it in on the river without over shoving the turn.


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

4bet size preflop is fine. I would bet 35% pot on flop, 35% pot on turn, and 35% pot on river or I might change my mind and shove river.

This board is great for our hand in terms of value but not so much for the villain's calling range, imo.

Now imagine, having KhQh here as the Hero, am I gonna TBAI? You bet I will.


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