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jiffybag
Joined: 21.12.2010

Some more stats, I need to look through those non showdown hands, saw some that made me go "why am I folding?".


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jiffybag
Joined: 21.12.2010

I need to look through the folded to turn and river cbet stats and see if I am just calling down with no hope of winning. Some of the hands I'm already like why are you checking and then folding? :facepalm::appl:


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SiKWiThIt
Joined: 21.06.2009

One important thing to note with 3Bet calling preflop. It is completely normal to have a big losing winrate. (Also important to note is 600hands is still a small sample)
However -330bb/100 is a bit too high but not as bad as you would expect.
To prove this. Consider what your winrate would be if every time you opened preflop and got 3Bet you folded 100%.
Your win rate would be -300bb/100 ( if your standard open size preflop is 3bb)
So the winrate you should be aiming for should be lower than -300bb/100 and then you are doing better than folding range.

Just checked my stat for the year (400 hands - small sample) and I am losing at -90bb/100. My average open size is around 2.5bb. So I am well within my -250bb/100.

For your case it seems you already realise you need to tighten up in certain spots. I would also recommend significantly tightening up your 3Bet/calling range when you would be OOP on the flop. Just a few small adjustments and self control and I'm sure you'll quickly see improvements in winrate there


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jiffybag
Joined: 21.12.2010

Originally posted by SiKWiThIt
One important thing to note with 3Bet calling preflop. It is completely normal to have a big losing winrate. (Also important to note is 600hands is still a small sample)
However -330bb/100 is a bit too high but not as bad as you would expect.
To prove this. Consider what your winrate would be if every time you opened preflop and got 3Bet you folded 100%.
Your win rate would be -300bb/100 ( if your standard open size preflop is 3bb)
So the winrate you should be aiming for should be lower than -300bb/100 and then you are doing better than folding range.

Just checked my stat for the year (400 hands - small sample) and I am losing at -90bb/100. My average open size is around 2.5bb. So I am well within my -250bb/100.

For your case it seems you already realise you need to tighten up in certain spots. I would also recommend significantly tightening up your 3Bet/calling range when you would be OOP on the flop. Just a few small adjustments and self control and I'm sure you'll quickly see improvements in winrate there

It's not just the calling 3 bets, its the bluffing and not just bet flop and give up or double barrel, its me emptying the clip. I really need to stop, if I miss I should just give up unless I have some equity. I also need to look at how I am doing vs short stacks, I seem to always be behind, doesn't matter if its pre flop or with me having top pair on the flop.

Thanks for the advice, I am trying to implement some sort of game plan for the next 70k hands and then will look at it again and see if I have improved or if I am completely hopeless.


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jiffybag
Joined: 21.12.2010

Sup noobz

I swear we must be going back in time, we now have Cholera... :wtf: are we getting next? The plague? We are turning into pilgrims here. The railways is coming soon, electricity is coming soon, online poker is legal, so fuck Cholera and the railway (I have a set of wheels and legs in case of run bad). But I really need electricity so I can continue this poker adventure.
Below is my call triple barrel stats, yes I am still looking through my DB, and as you can see triple barrels aren't bullshit, even if you have kinda nutty hands.

Even though I am losing here, it really is me pulling that bluff trigger too often, I am going to look at those stats next, been avoiding it, kinda, I don't know what filter to run yet, so will see when the electricity finally returns later on, like Santa. I'd say I am getting used to having electricity sometimes, but I am not, its really really shit. 2hrs off now and then 4 hours on and then off for 4hrs, at least its not as bad as the rest of the country, we don't get the full force of the power cut bad beat jackpot.
So lemme not bitch, because AKs won today, fatal 4 way "All in", I kicked the shit outa, JJ, AQ, and A8 <- if this 8 was a 7 the whole story would be different and so would my mood, remember kids, AK wins 100% of the time sometimes :coolface:

GL at the tables

Later noobz


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H0witzer
Joined: 27.02.2023

That' a sick 4way allin :roto2:

My first weeks back I also played too lose and too much OOP. My winrate changed alot for the better when i became tighter in EP + OOP and paid more attention to villains aggression + betsizes. On the microstakes when they tripel barrel they almost always have it. In general when they show aggression or bet big they have it.


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SvenBe
Joined: 19.04.2006

Yeah that is indeed a sick multiway hand. I can maybe remember a 3way allin in cash game with a shorty. or once a year a setup BU vs SB vs BB with QQ,AK+ for each but... yeah, have no good memories of that multiway stuff!


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AgapieGheorghe
Joined: 10.07.2011

Hey FinalBoss :f_drink:.

After i asked you to post you stats i actualy started to play a bit on Nl2 on GG just to see how is the room.

I've seen what you posted ( a lot of images with almost no stats ) and the only stats you can read from your post is Vpip/Pfr, 3bet, WTSD, W$SD.

I can see you are on the nitty side from your Vpip/pfr and your 3bet (5% is low) . WTSD it looks really good but the W$SD is kinda high when you lose money so i guess you go to showdown only when you have really good hands, i assume your WWSF is kinda low.

When you review your stats you should make a report by positions and this report should include :

VPIP - PFR
Raise First In - RFI
Win-rate and Ev win-rate
3Bet -Fold-to-3bet
Cold-call
Cbet on flop/turn/river
Fold to cbet on flop/turn/river
Raise vs Flop Cbet
WTSD - W$SD - WWSF
4bet range (not frequency)
Fold to 4bet
River call efficiency

I only have Pt4 but your report should look something like this. Ofc you need to show all the stats in more that one screenshot :


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jiffybag
Joined: 21.12.2010

Hey AgapieGheorghe, thanks for the tips, I wasn't sure what stats you were referring to when you asked so I've been going through everything.
I'll go through all the ones you recommended. I was looking for what filters to run and find my leaks but, I will start again with your advice, thanks again.
How did you find 2nl on GGP? Is that pic from 2nl? If it is I am seriously in need of a poker make over :f_ugly:


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AgapieGheorghe
Joined: 10.07.2011

Originally posted by jiffybag
Is that pic from 2nl? If it is I am seriously in need of a poker make over :f_ugly:

No :f_biggrin: Is not from nl2, just an img to show how the stats should look when you want to post them.

Originally posted by jiffybag
How did you find 2nl on GGP?

Keep in mind that i didn't played in the last year or more and i'm bit rusty, but i never had problems on NL2 on any platform, i have tons of hands on this limit over the years. I never played more than NL10 tho.

I don't have to many hands for now but the Rush pool seems ok and on the normal tables you can find enough recreational players.



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jiffybag
Joined: 21.12.2010

Month so far, been skipping lots of days as I am grinding 3 sites atm. I basically play GGP when there aren't many tables going locally. I'm running hot in my daily freebies so that's why its on the up, but I have booked some small wins in cash as well so hopefully I can get that graph going in the right direction, not going to lose to 2nl, fuck that.


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AgapieGheorghe
Joined: 10.07.2011
jiffybag
Joined: 21.12.2010

VPIP - PFR
Raise First In - RFI
Win-rate and Ev win-rate
3Bet -Fold-to-3bet
Cold-call
Cbet on flop/turn/river
Fold to cbet on flop/turn/river
Raise vs Flop Cbet
WTSD - W$SD - WWSF
4bet range (not frequency)
Fold to 4bet
River call efficiency

So, I've found where I can look at these stats in HEM3, it's a lot. I need to find out how to run a report on all the positions for every one of those stats, adding one at a time to my report doesn't really show much atm. I'll report back on this when I figure it out.


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jiffybag
Joined: 21.12.2010

Sup noobz

I took some time off, had to take some time off. But once I sort out a few things this week I can get back to the felt. I've been missing it.


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jiffybag
Joined: 21.12.2010

Why couldn't I get AK instead? I wasn't folding here, freeroll beats :coolface:


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jiffybag
Joined: 21.12.2010

Sup noobz

Its been way to damn long since my last confession, so here goes, deep breath in...I just channeled my inner Gus fucking Hansen and kicked the shit outa a bunch of noobz at the poker tablez. Oh what you don't believe me? Enjoy the slide show or whatever


Didn't think I would get a fold and decided to use mathematics to win one of my bay bays back in the next hand


You see?


Ma ballz were aching to call this one, but decided to let it go, I know, not very Gus Hansen like


I'm not explaining this shit, it was awesome :fuckyeah:


Are you fucking crazy? I'm channeling Gus here and I have tactical nukes and you pull out nines THE FUCK YOU THINK YOU DOING???


This must be what punching babies in the face is like...


Oh I channeled baby Jesus Phil Hellmuth for this one, even did a "Damn if a spade don't come I take his whole stack", I'm still sucking my own dick after this one.


You bet said "Do something" so I did :challenge:


Bleewfing


This is how you win with nines


This is how you lose with eights, don't ever say I didn't tell you


Bay bays and faces


This is how you suck out with pockets, not mine, look when my eights decide to show up


:appl:


Veleew bleewfing


I got this bitch by the ballz can you feel that :coolface:


Why the fuck won't he die :why:


sigh gg no wait wtf?


He made a big boi call


Like the undertaker he keep sitting back up


:happy:


Notice my uber nads

Later noobz

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jiffybag
Joined: 21.12.2010

Sup noobz

I'm outa 2nl :coolface: yeah boi

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Welcome back to 5nl - Merry Xmas DickHead :pcuser:


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