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aleasy77
Joined: 03.03.2014

Hello I have ask about GGCare tournament when can win some C$. How many times You catch something there? I had 18 entrance in row with nothing and if I lose tommorow too there I will 19 time in row with nothing catch.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

This isn't really surprising.
How many entries are there?
How many are paid?

You can figure out your chance of cashing with those two numbers.
I suspect that cashing once in 20 would be about par.

Good luck on the next two :gl:


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aleasy77
Joined: 03.03.2014

For more than two years I get 5 times but when I get something this get nearly one on ten entries.


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AcesMagnet
Joined: 13.06.2023

The answer is simple. Its pure pot luck! You could get lucky in your very first entry (which happened to me) or you could go multiple days entries without ever playing.

The GGcare/GGcheers is a daily auto all-in tournament. There are roughly 10,000-20,000 entries to this tournament every day.

12-25% of the field places in the money, not sure the exact figure. Not everyone recieves the same chip stack at the start of each tournament so its not as simple as "you need to win four all-ins in a row" to place in the money, but that's a good approximete starting point if you want to try to work out where you might place.

I've finished as low as 1,200th and still recieved a prize - IIRC it was about $26. I've also placed better than this and not cashed. So it depends on the number of entrants, and the size of your starting stack.

If you recieve 2, 3, or more GGcare/GGcheers on the same day, these are not 3 seperate tickets. So its not 3 chances to win. The stacks are combined, but it does mean you could lose one or even two of the first hands and not be knocked out of the tournament.

Also, you could be monster-stacked in comparison to 99% of the field, yet be unlucky enough to have someone with a bigger starting stack in your first hand. He wins, snd you're wipe out.

I do think that there is some sort of participate management algortihm going on though, because if you look at the starting tables during the first hand of this tournament, it's like GG have put all the little stacks together and all the big stacks together!!! So "regs" go up against other "regs", and prevents them from swallowing up all the little "rec" stacks from the low volume recreational players who don't play enough to ever get a monster GGcare stack. Like being seeded for Wimbledon, you don't meet the top seeds until later on in the tournament, at which point those lucky recs who beat the other recs have already placed in the money, whilst the regs knocked each other out.

And thinking about it, I'm not against this. The regs don't wipe out all those little stacks in one go before the money stages thus dominating all the ITM places. Regs might dominate the top spots, as you would expect, but recs appear with extreme regularity at the lower money places.


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AcesMagnet
Joined: 13.06.2023

Here is my GGcare tournament history as depicted in the Android GGoker UK client app



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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

I fixed the image link for you.


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AcesMagnet
Joined: 13.06.2023

UPDATE:

If you look at this image you will see that I placed ITM this morning, ranking 1,219th out of 13,598 entries.

I won C$25, which is not the lowest prize. So although it is all-in Bingo, you only need to win a few hands, or depending on number of entries & stack size maybe a couple hands. And with a bigger stack you could even lose the first and survive to go on to win the 2nd/3rd and place ITM - your luck os running good you might not even have a full table in some spots. With the T2s I was lucky enough to be heads up, I had 276k stack and the pot Villain won was only a tenth the size!

Bubble today was 3,351st, with 3,350th receiving C$19, then C$21, C$23, c$25 etc, up to 10th getting c$140 and first recieving a cool free c$1000.

As I need to place my c$ on a cash table in order to turn it into real $, I intend to use it to take a shot at a 50BB buyin at the highest limit possible, instead of my usual NL10.

edit: Yay! I fixed my own broken image link, instead of vorpal being harrassed and doing it for me - out of the goodness of his heart, mind (I wasn't harrassing him, but if it was my job to moderate this forum, I would find it harrassful to have to do it. I would do it, and I would never complain about it, but secretly it would find it highly annoying 🀣) - bet I'm right, vorpal? πŸ˜‰


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aleasy77
Joined: 03.03.2014

I know that on one day I catch ggcare ticket stack is summary. I have now 21 times in row with catch nothing on this jokes thanks GGPoker rewards. For me GGPoker is the worst poker room I Play only now daily freebie and sometimes cash games.


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aleasy77
Joined: 03.03.2014


My history of this promotion...


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jiffybag
Joined: 21.12.2010

Dude you still ranked C in spins, way better than me _drink:


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aleasy77
Joined: 03.03.2014

Originally posted by jiffybag
Dude you still ranked C in spins, way better than me _drink:

This rank is joke too because of You lose on third/second place with better hand all on preflop or flop/turn You lose the same quantity points when You lose with worse hand. But what think about the worst poker room.


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aleasy77
Joined: 03.03.2014

Some update after Yesterday game cash games on ggp I get ticket to ggcare and comes 22th on row with nothing.


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AcesMagnet
Joined: 13.06.2023

Originally posted by aleasy77, on 23-03-2023:
...GGCare tournament when can win some C$...I had 18 entrance...if I lose tommorow too, 19 time in row with nothing catch.

Originally posted by aleasy77, on 13-10-2023:
Yesterday, GGP cash games, I get ticket to ggcare...22nd in row now with nothing.

luck of the draw

It's literally a crapshoot. I won something every day for four days once, then went on a months long dry spell.

But yes, it's possible to win. I took 54$C one time with just ~5000 care points, and another time with around ~20k points won zero. You've got to win that first hand all-in to stand any chance.

watch it live!

I recommend if you're awake early enough one day, log in and watch the tournament. It's the best way for someone to understand how it works and just how much luck is required - they give away $100k every day in that tournament, so as the saying goes, you have to be in it to win it.

so many variables

I'd give you some calculations on the odds of placing, but even that will change from day to day, depending on the number of entries:

  • some days less people are in it
  • some days there are whales with monster stacks which manage to keep them in long enough to be in the money even if they lose every all in until then!
  • some days when you've been (un)lucky enough have a large starting stack, you are also lucky enough to be the only big stack at the table, meaning you can survive losing multiple hands.
  • sadly, you might think having a big stack gives you a better chance of winning. And it should, but you're placed at a table where everyone else is covering your stack! Lose that first and and you're gone. (This happened to me, the biggest GGcare stack I've ever had and the first table everyone had me covered).

So basically the best way to see how it works is to watch it unfold. There's no better way - once you've watched it live, it will all become clear.

what gives?

Why sometimes it seems totally rigged; that you're whale of a stack got you nothing - whilst on another occasion you manage to place in the top 10% with the smallest starting stack ever!

edit: turned my observations into a bulleted list and added a suggestion to watch a ggcare tournament live, added sub-headings

edit 2: added the second quote from aleasy77, and also put dates to the quotes.

edit 3: Umm... I'm a dumbass! I lost concentration on my omaha bounty MTT to answer this post. I gave great thought about it in preparing this answer, which is basically explaining why I'm recommending you watch at least one ggcare tourney live. only to scroll up and see that I've already bloody answered in this thread, and not just once but multiple times! I thought this was a new thread! Jeezus H chryst! How dumb am I? Still good advice though - I think that since I've now been playing on GG much more since I initially replied, I'm in a position to give better suggestions?


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AcesMagnet
Joined: 13.06.2023

...delete this, I just added it to my post above, no point having two replies back to back. Can't find an option to delete though. Sorry.


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aleasy77
Joined: 03.03.2014

Next update 23 time in row with nothing joking promotion.


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surfking
Joined: 26.06.2011

It s basically a raffle. Waste of energy and time to try to track it and complain you didnt win this time


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aleasy77
Joined: 03.03.2014

But I can count it and maybe have record to catch nothing on this promotions. For example one players can two times on one month win/catch bad beat jackpot.


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aleasy77
Joined: 03.03.2014

Today 27th time in row with nothing on this joking promotion.


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aleasy77
Joined: 03.03.2014

28 time in row with nothing, gift from GGPoker on this Christmas, Merry Christmas for Everybody!


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Timmaywin
Joined: 23.02.2010

I have also been very unlucky playing these flipout tournaments, the special version from the end of last year, with flipout (stage 1) tournaments every 2 hours. I lost a lot of them.
And the biggest contribution to my disappointment comes from the fact that my stacksize was always like 2x/3x/4x average stacksize, which means that I consider the chances of winning (and reaching stage 2) being a lot higher. But than it also depends on the stacksizes of your opponents at your table, your starting hand and your luck on the tables. I was able to lose 4 times in a row with the best preflop hand,where I had to win from just one opponent who had a stacksize that would cripple me when losing. I was able to see my AA getting crushed bij 72o heads up, which means I was really running hot...

So, I lost a lot of stage 1 and 2 flipouts, but still managed to reach the final flipout tournamant with roughly 4x the average stacksize (being top 300 in stacksize) But then, I lost the first hand and ended up in place 13.000 from 15.000ish players. (C$26.50) That really feels unfair and I also emailed GG Poker about this. Stacksize should mean something.

In the daily $100k flipout, I have seen smallstackers winning the whole thing, just by winning every hand.


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