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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Lucky spot today interestingly from technical side. I dont have first hand as it was not saved in client apparently. Anyway I went allin with mid set on flop in one table and got called. So I saw villain hand but then nothing happened. At same time I had put pot sizing on another table to go for squeeze with AAKT and clicked raise button.

This was the spot:

So what happened was that I managed to shove mid set and won that pot but my squeeze didnt happen as connection was cut. Neither of these players would have folded preflop and probably I would have pot cbet this flop. BU definitely would not have folded his wrap+2 bdfd. So I potentially saved around 140bb.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Sometimes being bit tricky can induce stuff.

Game #1892078831: Table €50 PL - 0.25/0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha - 18:12:46 2023/06/07
Seated players
Seat 1: Dontpanicpls (€32.50)
Seat 2: Wizardfish (€53.13)
Seat 3: Jalle12 (€51.44)
Seat 4: jaxuh4li (€54.26) (sitting out)
Seat 5: Miumui (€59.20)
Seat 6: Pinkglassses (€50) (sitting out)
Blinds and button
Dontpanicpls has the button
Wizardfish posts small blind €0.25
Jalle12 posts big blind €0.50
Hole cards
Dealt to Miumui J♦:A♥:7♦:T♥:
Preflop
Miumui raises €1.75 to €1.75
Dontpanicpls calls €1.75
Wizardfish folds
Jalle12 folds
Flop 6♣:7♥:7♠: (4.25€)
Miumui checks
Dontpanicpls checks
Turn 5♣: (4.25€)
Miumui bets €2.12
Dontpanicpls raises €8.48 to €8.48
Miumui calls €6.36
River 9♦: (21.21€)
Miumui checks
Dontpanicpls bets €10.60
Miumui calls €10.60
Showdown
Dontpanicpls shows 8♥:A♠:K♠:Q♠:, A Pair of Sevens
Miumui shows J♦:A♥:7♦:T♥:, Three of a kind, Sevens
Miumui wins €40.93
Summary
Total pot €42.41 Rake €1.48


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by ghaleon
Sometimes being bit tricky can induce stuff.

a mere set on that board is scary. Nice it worked out.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Originally posted by VorpalF2F

Originally posted by ghaleon
Sometimes being bit tricky can induce stuff.

a mere set on that board is scary. Nice it worked out.

Its not set I have :)

Yeah its not great spot but when villain check in position it will decrease 89 combos somewhat at least. I do also block nut straight on river with T and villain might not value bet weaker straight.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Got lucky today in nice spot. Well this is why I dont usually cbet with non nut trips with pocket pair in these spots. Player behind me was super passive though so went for it. But I also block overpairs and fd so getting value is tough and if x-r comes from deeper stack player we get into very bad spot. I went with my hand but not really sure. I were thinking AJ is bit less likely as villain just completed pre and I dont block nfd which is most likely semibluff. But yeah nice to be once in a blue moon the guy hitting 4 outer on river

Game #1892543984: Table €50 PL - 0.25/0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha - 15:29:51 2023/06/08
Seated players
Seat 2: Fabs4 (€51.17)
Seat 3: Miumui (€96.72)
Seat 4: Johnbal (€21.99)
Seat 5: Goodfella3 (€48.66)
Seat 6: TeddyRo (€60.35)
Blinds and button
TeddyRo has the button
Fabs4 posts small blind €0.25
Miumui posts big blind €0.50
Hole cards
Dealt to Miumui K♠:Q♥:J♦:K♣:
Preflop
Johnbal calls €0.50
Goodfella3 folds
TeddyRo folds
Fabs4 calls €0.25
Miumui raises €1.50 to €2
Johnbal calls €1.50
Fabs4 calls €1.50
Flop J♥:6♣:J♣: (6€)
Fabs4 checks
Miumui bets €3
Johnbal folds
Fabs4 raises €15 to €15
Miumui calls €12
Turn 3♦: (36€)
Fabs4 bets €34.17, and is all-in
Miumui calls €34.17
Showdown
River Q♣:
Fabs4 shows A♣:J♠:7♦:K♥:, Three of a kind, Jacks
Miumui shows K♠:Q♥:J♦:K♣:, Full House
Miumui wins €101.34
Summary
Total pot €104.34 Rake €3


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

I have now checked it almost then times, but I stil can't see you making a boat.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Yeah I had first accidentally removed Q from HH. Then I edited thinking it was T and now it's correct :)


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Hmm... :spit:

Game #1893071066: Table €50 PL - 0.25/0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha - 14:21:32 2023/06/09
Seated players
Seat 1: s_wildcat (€22.84)
Seat 2: Starsky2 (€97)
Seat 3: Miumui (€54.05)
Seat 5: LuttiDutti (€67.98)
Blinds and button
Starsky2 has the button
Miumui posts small blind €0.25
LuttiDutti posts big blind €0.50
Hole cards
Dealt to Miumui Q♥:5♣:Q♣:9♠:
Preflop
s_wildcat folds
Starsky2 folds
Miumui raises €1.25 to €1.50
LuttiDutti raises €4 to €4.50
Miumui calls €3
Flop 8♦:7♠:2♣: (9€)
Miumui checks
LuttiDutti checks
Turn Q♠: (9€)
Miumui checks
LuttiDutti bets €6.75
Miumui raises €29.25 to €29.25
LuttiDutti calls €22.50
River 7♣: (67.5€)
Miumui bets €20.30, and is all-in
LuttiDutti calls €20.30
Showdown
Miumui shows Q♥:5♣:Q♣:9♠:, Full House
LuttiDutti shows 5♠:A♦:2♠:T♦:, Two pairs, Sevens up
Miumui wins €105.10
Summary
Total pot €108.10 Rake €3


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Unfortunately maniac didnt have balls to barrel river with three boat blocker. Nice pot anyway :)

Game #1893089817: Table €50 PL - 0.25/0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha - 15:03:27 2023/06/09
Seated players
Seat 1: JVG (€148.03)
Seat 2: Anna1981 (€181.84)
Seat 3: Law2013 (€118.04) (sitting out)
Seat 4: Miumui (€99.30)
Seat 5: mgl2354 (€49.50) (sitting out)
Seat 6: rottakoira (€127.73)
Blinds and button
Anna1981 has the button
Miumui posts small blind €0.25
rottakoira posts big blind €0.50
Hole cards
Dealt to Miumui 2♦:4♠:A♠:A♥:
Preflop
JVG folds
Anna1981 raises €1.75 to €1.75
Miumui raises €5.50 to €5.75
rottakoira calls €5.25
Anna1981 calls €4
Flop 4♥:T♠:A♦: (17.25€)
Miumui bets €8.62
rottakoira calls €8.62
Anna1981 folds
*** Turn ** A♣: (34.49€)
Miumui checks
rottakoira bets €23.59
Miumui calls €23.59
River J♥: (81.67€)
Miumui checks
rottakoira checks
Showdown
Miumui shows 2♦:4♠:A♠:A♥:, Four of a kind, Aces
rottakoira shows 4♦:T♥:8♣:J♣:, Two pairs, Aces up
Miumui wins €78.81
Summary
Total pot €81.67 Rake €2.86


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

As default line I pretty much check close to whole range in these sort of low flops in SBvsBB as BB just has so much more those low cards if defending decently wide. Villain could have 3bet decent KK quite easily pre here which would have saved his stack this time. As played I would probably fold on turn in his shoes. A5 is decent part of my value range. But luckily he was sticky.

But yeah that preflop passiveness makes this open of mine reasonable imo.

Game #1893079812: Table €25 PL - 0.10/0.25 - Pot Limit Omaha - 14:40:38 2023/06/09
Seated players
Seat 1: ErgoProxy (€28.66)
Seat 2: Miumui (€24.90)
Seat 5: vissy96 (€36.95)
Blinds and button
ErgoProxy has the button
Miumui posts small blind €0.10
vissy96 posts big blind €0.25
Hole cards
Dealt to Miumui 6♠:A♣:7♠:5♠:
Preflop
ErgoProxy folds
Miumui raises €0.65 to €0.75
vissy96 calls €0.50
Flop 5♦:3♦:5♥: (1.5€)
Miumui checks
vissy96 bets €0.75
Miumui raises €3 to €3
vissy96 calls €2.25
Turn A♥: (7.5€)
Miumui bets €5.62
vissy96 calls €5.62
River T♥: (18.74€)
Miumui bets €15.53, and is all-in
vissy96 calls €15.53
Showdown
Miumui shows 6♠:A♣:7♠:5♠:, Full House
vissy96 shows K♠:4♥:T♠:K♥:, A Flush
Miumui wins €48.55
Summary
Total pot €49.80 Rake €1.25

PS: Didn't even notice he was ds with his KK when I posted this. I meant that even as ss to K it would be 3bet. As ds it's absurd to not 3bet...


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

If his 3bet range is AAxx, that's just not in that range.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Rough session today. I had more than couple 3bet pots where I had most of time overpair. Sometimes with support as well. Thing was that flops came like Q62 or K43 etc. so classic spots where our range wants to pot a lot of time. But issue was I were running into totally absurd hands hitting two pairs. Like T543ss etc. Also lost every time.

Well luckily I got this huge pot where opponent way overplayed his hand. It would be bad play with 100bb but its super bad with 200bb:

Game #1894881428: Table €50 PL - 0.25/0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha - 19:38:38 2023/06/12
Seated players
Seat 1: JVG (€39.60)
Seat 2: Miumui (€106.42)
Seat 3: anagyhohoo (€125.49)
Seat 4: Zsoccca (€88.25)
Seat 5: veksi5 (€125.66)
Seat 6: b4n4naA4 (€164.66)
Blinds and button
Miumui has the button
anagyhohoo posts small blind €0.25
Zsoccca posts big blind €0.50
Hole cards
Dealt to Miumui A♠:7♣:8♥:K♣:
Preflop
veksi5 folds
b4n4naA4 folds
JVG folds
Miumui raises €1.75 to €1.75
anagyhohoo calls €1.50
Zsoccca calls €1.25
Flop 9♠:T♣:6♣:
anagyhohoo bets €5.25
Zsoccca calls €5.25
Miumui raises €26.25 to €26.25
anagyhohoo raises €84 to €89.25
Zsoccca folds
Miumui raises €78.42 to €104.67, and is all-in
anagyhohoo calls €15.42
Showdown
Turn 8♣:
River J♦:
Miumui shows A♠:7♣:8♥:K♣:, A Flush
anagyhohoo shows 9♥:T♥:A♣:T♦:, Three of a kind, Tens
Miumui wins €216.84
Summary
Total pot €219.84 Rake €3

That hand doesnt want to lead as it really doesnt want to get raised. But if he did lead with it he should use small sizing.

I were bit worried of being versus some combo hand with nfd but has to be raised. Luckily he had only one club :)

Would have been btw kind of puke spot if villain just called flop and lead or x-shoved turn with nut blocker. That would be interesting line to take.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

This opponent had funny nick name.

Game #1895726887: Table €25 PL - 0.10/0.25 - Pot Limit Omaha - 12:16:36 2023/06/14
Seated players
Seat 1: SmockDatAce- (€25)
Seat 2: Joppas (€29.57)
Seat 3: OldPipe (€35.07)
Seat 4: NoMisstake (€19.23)
Seat 5: Tralalaaaaa (€60.76)
Seat 6: ouuho (€22.97)
Blinds and button
ouuho has the button
SmockDatAce- posts small blind €0.10
Joppas posts big blind €0.25
Hole cards
Dealt to Joppas J♠:A♦:K♣:A♠:
Preflop
OldPipe folds
NoMisstake raises €0.85 to €0.85
Tralalaaaaa folds
ouuho folds
SmockDatAce- folds
Joppas raises €2.40 to €2.65
NoMisstake raises €3.60 to €4.45
Joppas raises €10.80 to €13.45
NoMisstake raises €14.78 to €19.23, and is all-in
Joppas calls €5.78
Showdown
Flop Q♦:A♥:J♣:
Turn Q♥:
River 3♠:
Joppas shows J♠:A♦:K♣:A♠:, Full House
NoMisstake shows K♥:9♦:2♦:K♦:, Two pairs, Kings up
Joppas wins €37.40
Summary
Total pot €38.56 Rake €1.16

Very rare to get preflop allin with 80% equity :)


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

WTF?

Game #1897986232: Table €50 PL - 0.25/0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha - 17:17:30 2023/06/18
Seated players
Seat 1: Iwillplay2-7 (€24.79)
Seat 2: SirMetalKing (€86.36)
Seat 3: Mrrrkw (€95.22)
Seat 4: Burysa (€129.88)
Seat 5: MrBakkker (€47.88)
Seat 6: TheFirstKid (€25)
Blinds and button
Mrrrkw has the button
TheFirstKid posts new player's blind €0.50
Burysa posts small blind €0.25
MrBakkker posts big blind €0.50
Hole cards
Dealt to Burysa A♠:Q♠:A♦:2♥:
Preflop
TheFirstKid checks
Iwillplay2-7 calls €0.50
SirMetalKing folds
Mrrrkw raises €2.75 to €2.75
Burysa raises €9.50 to €9.75
MrBakkker folds
TheFirstKid folds
Iwillplay2-7 folds
Mrrrkw calls €7
Flop 3♦:A♣:8♣: (21€)
Burysa bets €21
Mrrrkw calls €21
Turn 3♥: (63€)
Burysa bets €15
Mrrrkw raises €64.47 to €64.47, and is all-in
Burysa calls €49.47
Showdown
River T♠:
Mrrrkw shows K♦:7♠:A♥:6♥:, Two pairs, Aces up
Burysa shows A♠:Q♠:A♦:2♥:, Full House
Burysa wins €188.94
Summary
Total pot €191.94 Rake €3

Well I dont think his hand is bad at all theory wise at least to call turn and call blank river. But that turn shove is sort of silly. Only positive side is getting some fd to fold but basically weaker will fold and better will call. But yeah I would not have any raising range in villain shoes. Doesn't make sense really with opponent having clear AA advantage.

I think my hand play pretty nice the way I played it. Maybe we want to use smaller flop bet as flop is on dry side even with fd available. But then again BU can have some low wraps and in SPR 4 spot its very natural to have pot range. This AA without any bd potential fall into pot range naturally.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

When you play versus gamble happy people weird stuff can happen:

Game #1898445313: Table €25 PL - 0.10/0.25 - Pot Limit Omaha - 16:11:07 2023/06/19
Seated players
Seat 1: Attylla (€85.83)
Seat 2: ErgoProxy (€19.12)
Seat 3: Burysa (€84.82)
Seat 4: zealit (€12.50)
Seat 5: GTO89TJ (€0) (sitting out)
Seat 6: Jurgent (€25) (sitting out)
Blinds and button
zealit has the button
Attylla posts small blind €0.10
ErgoProxy posts big blind €0.25
Hole cards
Dealt to Burysa 5♠:A♥:K♦:A♣:
Preflop
Burysa raises €0.85 to €0.85
zealit calls €0.85
Attylla raises €3.55 to €3.65
ErgoProxy folds
Burysa calls €2.80
zealit raises €11.65 to €12.50, and is all-in
Attylla calls €8.85
Burysa raises €46.60 to €50.25
Attylla calls €37.75
Flop Q♣:4♣:4♥:
Attylla bets €35.58, and is all-in
Burysa calls €34.57, and is all-in
Uncalled bet returned to Attylla: €1.01
Showdown
Turn A♠:
River J♠:
Attylla shows 9♣:5♣:6♦:8♣:, A Pair of Fours
Burysa shows 5♠:A♥:K♦:A♣:, Full House, Aces full
zealit shows T♦:7♥:J♥:J♦:, Full House, Jacks full
Burysa wins main pot, €36.62
Burysa wins side pot #1, €143.27
Summary
Total pot €182.39 Rake €2.50


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Kind of frustrating sessions today. Played imo ok but didnt scoop pretty much any huge multiway pots even though I had like 35-45% equity in several. Tiny profit still.

This was at end of the session. One of worst desperation bluffs I have ever seen. Could only be worse combo if he had like AAKQ with nfd... Now he at least doesnt have showdown value.

Btw what you think of flop stab size? If I remember right plotrainer advocated for 1/3 pot stab in this sort of spot. I think reasoning being that it allow us to stab wider and it puts lot of usual 3betting range into nasty spot. Though this guy is 3betting lot wider as he was maniac. This time surprisingly had very good starting hand though. Well I also had reason to use small stab versus this guy as he seemed to go for x-raise really eagerly versus small bet.

Game #1899586222: Table €25 PL - 0.10/0.25 - Pot Limit Omaha - 18:46:54 2023/06/21
Seated players
Seat 1: Nme33 (€31.21)
Seat 2: KingFlopper (€44.78)
Seat 3: DaphneDD (€76.15)
Seat 4: surpuppan (€11.98)
Seat 5: Jurgent (€43.79) (sitting out)
Seat 6: Lumuss (€43.84)
Blinds and button
Lumuss has the button
Nme33 posts small blind €0.10
KingFlopper posts big blind €0.25
Hole cards
Dealt to Lumuss 5♥:6♥:9♠:8♦:
Preflop
DaphneDD folds
surpuppan folds
Lumuss raises €0.85 to €0.85
Nme33 raises €2.70 to €2.80
KingFlopper folds
Lumuss calls €1.95
Flop 7♥:9♥:6♦: (5.85€)
Nme33 checks
Lumuss bets €2
Nme33 calls €2
Turn 3♣: (9.85€)
Nme33 checks
Lumuss bets €7.38
Nme33 calls €7.38
River 4♦: (24.51€)
Nme33 bets €19.03, and is all-in
Lumuss calls €19.03
Showdown
Nme33 shows Q♣:A♥::J♣:K♥:, High card
Lumuss shows 5♥:6♥:9♠:8♦:, A Straight
Lumuss wins €60.79
Summary
Total pot €62.67 Rake €1.88


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JoePlotter
Joined: 10.11.2012

Interesting sizing, I've been using 1/2 pot stabs and that seems to work well. I can see the reasoning for even the smaller sizing. Range-wise that's a pretty static board and we can always finish the job on most turns. Yeah it could put some elasticity on villains calling range. What would be your turn 2nd barrel sizing then? I would go no less than a halv pot on any turn to protect our bluffing range by increasing the pressure, my feel is something like 2/3 pot.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

We want to go with sizing that allow leverage of whole stack with river bet in these low SPR spots. In this case I used 3/4 pot that creates very similar size river shove scenario. This is concept often used in holdem at least. Of course equity denial play bigger role in omaha so it's also situation dependent. Meaning if board had been bit different like T97ss I would prefer going bigger on flop and turn. That flop would be much more dynamic and better in general for 3bettor range.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Had one more of those slot bonuses of deposit 75€ to get 30 free spins. This time each spin had 0.5€ value so 15€ in total. Actual win was 18.5€ roughly so this time ROI was actually positive :)

Well of course it's always positive anyway with free spins but compared to nominal value.


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SvenBe
Joined: 19.04.2006

Originally posted by ghaleon
Had one more of those slot bonuses of deposit 75€ to get 30 free spins. This time each spin had 0.5€ value so 15€ in total. Actual win was 18.5€ roughly so this time ROI was actually positive :)

Well of course it's always positive anyway with free spins but compared to nominal value.


Time to change it to Slot Expert, he?


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