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PLO25 AKQTss river bluff?

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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

I thought MP would be somewhat decent player. Probably more of recreational type though. I think he was not open raising much in general.

I did think of going for squeeze but not sure. It would be to 5.1€ so if MP happens to shove it would be around 17€ for pot of 47€. Meaning I would need around 35% equity to call. Versus AAxx alone it would be only 30%. So I suppose it would be either very marginal call at best or fold versus 4bet. Still reasonable spot to 3bet perhaps. I decided to play safe and just call.

Flop I lead out for half pot having top 2, ngs and nbdfd. MP call.

Turn suck big time completing most likely draw. We do pick up fd as well so definitely we cant fold. But I didnt see much value in betting as its quite hard to get action from weaker made hand. So went with x-c.

River pair the board and at this point we can either x-f or lead shove as bluff. I think x-c is least favourite option for me as I just dont believe villain will try to almost ever bluff this spot. I kind of like lead as bluff as it should be extremely belieavable line for me to have boat. But end result was what it was. I suppose if villain is unable to fold straight without boat blocker then my bluff is bad. Theory wise its imo good bluff but would probably need solid reads on villain to being good enough to fold.

Game #1905211996: Table €25 PL - 0.10/0.25 - Pot Limit Omaha - 13:13:08 2023/07/02
Seated players
Seat 1: displ4 (€22.52)
Seat 2: SneaQ (€20.90)
Seat 3: Kull1nNuppi (€34.55)
Seat 4: WAIT_FOR_BB (€42.18)
Seat 5: Okosas (€25)
Blinds and button
Kull1nNuppi has the button
WAIT_FOR_BB posts small blind €0.10
Okosas posts big blind €0.25
Hole cards
Dealt to Okosas A♠:Q♣:K♠:T♥:
Preflop
displ4 raises €0.85 to €0.85
SneaQ calls €0.85
Kull1nNuppi calls €0.85
WAIT_FOR_BB calls €0.75
Okosas calls €0.60
Flop K♣:T♠:2♦: (4.25€)
WAIT_FOR_BB checks
Okosas bets €2.12
displ4 calls €2.12
SneaQ folds
Kull1nNuppi folds
WAIT_FOR_BB folds
Turn 9♠: (8.49€)
Okosas checks
displ4 bets €5.70
Okosas calls €5.70
River 9♣: (19.89€)
Okosas bets €16.33, and is all-in
displ4 calls €13.85, and is all-in
Uncalled bet returned to Okosas: €2.48

Spoiler

Showdown
displ4 shows 8♣:Q♥:J♣:A♥:, A Straight
Okosas shows A♠:Q♣:K♠:T♥:, Two pairs, Kings up
displ4 wins €46.16


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BradNitt
Joined: 22.07.2011

preflop: think the call is fine. in sim it actually starts even folding AKQTss 5 ways, but there are the ranges much different.
depends also on the openraise if we want to 3bet, if hes maybe more on the tighter site, then wouldnt want to raise single suited.

flop not sure if a lead is good. in 3way sim it also do not want to lead mainly because kk always is in the flatting ranges and we don't want bet fold. would be like a 10% lead with AKQT bdfd. also our outs are not so solid like just a gutter, bdfd, the flatting ranges also strongly consist of jx and we will have to pot control multiway too often on the turn, i would say.

turn and the river are okay, imo and you've said all about it. also, villain did not raise the flop so he has a boat less often.


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regie
Joined: 06.03.2008

River fold. Its a straight most of the time. He would not Bet turn without it. I would check call flop not lead. Without backdoor flush Draw it can be a Bet fold on the flop in case of leading.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Well thing is if we do get raised on flop its very often KK or TT in these multiway pots so we dont necessarily fold that much equity. I might have just got sucked out too many times recently with two outers in these when taking passive line :)

With river lead we aim to get straight to fold. We should also lead in this spot with most boats for value. I dont actually mind to check all of my range on turn as we definitely need some straights also in check range. Villain range is weighted toward straights when he takes call flop, bet turn line. So river shifts range equity toward my side heavily.

I would have folded villain hand in his shoes versus non maniac type players for sure. Only good thing going on in his hand was having no spade. But flop is rainbow so its not huge deal imo. Well this might be too optimistic line at least in these small stake games without good read.


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