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aleasy77
Joined: 03.03.2014

Opponent is unknown and cold call 3bet on button preflop. I cbet on flop and after he calls I bet again on turn and get raise. I expected different hands here. What is the best option here fold/call/raise?

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.02/$0.05 - 5 players
Replay this hand on Pokeit - https://pokeit.co/public/625h6XWUo/r

UTG: $3.43 (69 bb)
CO (Hero): $5.07 (101 bb)
BU: $5.36 (107 bb)
SB: $5.00 (100 bb)
BB: $5.00 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07) Hero is CO with K♠ A♥
UTG raises to $0.15, Hero 3-bets to $0.45, BTN calls $0.45, 3 players fold

Flop: ($1.12) 7♦ 8♠ A♠ (2 players)
Hero bets $0.54, BTN calls $0.54

Turn: ($2.20) 3♥ (2 players)
Hero bets $1.20, BTN raises to $2.40, Hero raises to $4.08 (all-in), BTN calls $1.68

River: ($10.36) 2♥ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $10.36 (Rake: $0.43)

Spoiler

Showdown:
CO (Hero) shows K♠ A♥ (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 44%, Flop: 5%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

BU shows 8♣ 8♦ (three of a kind, Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 56%, Flop: 95%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

BU wins $9.93


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EmiyaKiritsugu
Joined: 13.08.2013

Just jam, too drawy board and too small stack for bet/call turn -> check/call river.


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Bigger bet OTF and all in OTT


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Gomez224
Joined: 24.03.2008

vs solid reg/nit I would fold that hand. You show a lot of strength by 3bet pre-flop and betting the flop and the turn.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Originally posted by Gomez224
vs solid reg/nit I would fold that hand. You show a lot of strength by 3bet pre-flop and betting the flop and the turn.

We don't know anything of the villain in this hand, but min raising turn is suspicious for sure.
I don't think I would size up the flop to try to get it in on the turn. Villain could have a flush draw, but that's less likely with the A♠: on this board in a 3bet pot. It's basicly a set or bluff on the turn I think. It makes no sense to cold call a 3bet with A8 or A7.

Without reads folding seems alright with in mind you are drawing dead against a set and is likely he/she has 1.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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EmiyaKiritsugu
Joined: 13.08.2013

Originally posted by Gomez224
vs solid reg/nit I would fold that hand. You show a lot of strength by 3bet pre-flop and betting the flop and the turn.

Solid reg/nit shouldnt have cold calling range to 3bet. If he has then I assume he is fishy and stack off.


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Gomez224
Joined: 24.03.2008

Originally posted by EmiyaKiritsugu

Originally posted by Gomez224
vs solid reg/nit I would fold that hand. You show a lot of strength by 3bet pre-flop and betting the flop and the turn.

Solid reg/nit shouldnt have cold calling range to 3bet. If he has then I assume he is fishy and stack off.

Sorry but can't agree with you. Villain in his calling range UTG vs CO can have AKo, AQs, AJs, KQs, KJs, QQ, JJ, TT, 99, 88, 87s, 76s, 65s, 54s


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regie
Joined: 06.03.2008

You have hands in your range like A4 A5 . Sometimes I would set mine ip with hands like 88 . AQ is a fold ip i believe. AK Cold call sometimes . Bad players play ip AQ sometimes. I would not fold AK this time.

Bad players reraise small sometimes huge holdings. Only reason to fold.
This time You lost , but did not any mistake. Go ahead and look forward.


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EmiyaKiritsugu and Gomez224 your discussion is irrelevant. There isnt solid players on the mircrostakes witch means that you arent solid as well. Nobody here is, just wannabes. We are microstakes players. So i doubt any of us understand the concept of being solid. It doesnt make any sense to comment what should or should not do


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pokerboy198229
Joined: 20.08.2011

Again that half pot c-bet, it is either 1/3 or 2/3 of the pot. With 1/3 we want to see x/raise from worse hands, with 2/3 we getting more value from worse hands. I suggest you strong to adapt yours c-bet sizing. Otherwise you will put yourself in nothereland oop when you didnt put enough money to call their raises due to made investment.

As played turn, it is ok. I will like more they raise me on flop, turn raises are most of the times vaulesh.


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aleasy77
Joined: 03.03.2014

He is in position so he can't check-raise but vs small bet maybe he can raise with some bluff but I prefer option with higher bet and put test stack on turn.


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EmiyaKiritsugu
Joined: 13.08.2013

Originally posted by Gomez224

Originally posted by EmiyaKiritsugu

Originally posted by Gomez224
vs solid reg/nit I would fold that hand. You show a lot of strength by 3bet pre-flop and betting the flop and the turn.

Solid reg/nit shouldnt have cold calling range to 3bet. If he has then I assume he is fishy and stack off.

Sorry but can't agree with you. Villain in his calling range UTG vs CO can have AKo, AQs, AJs, KQs, KJs, QQ, JJ, TT, 99, 88, 87s, 76s, 65s, 54s

You probably didnt notice but we are playing not against guy who opened from EP. Our 'enemy' is BU who casually called 9bb preflop. Thats why I used term 'cold calling' range.

Cold calling is when player who is didnt put money for bet(or raise) calls reraise.
EP opens, MP 3bets, EP calls
EP opens, MP 3bets, CO cold calls
EP opens, MP 3bets, CO 4bets, EP cold calls


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