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[Closed] $16 AJs, decent stack but 9bb effec.

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LgWz
Joined: 26.05.2007

No Limit Holdem Tournament
$15+$1
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG (3010)
Hero (UTG+1) (3245)
CO (1860)
BTN (1925)
SB (1590)
BB (1870)

Blinds: 100/200

Pre-flop: (300, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 A♠ J♠
1 fold, Hero ???

Pushing here is close to the bottom of my range (I'd push AJo/ATs and fold ATo/A9s). Again I'm not sure if it's a good push, because I take 300 chips if they fold but if I'm called I'm most likely either flipping or way behind.


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

It's fine to push here given the stacksizes. Remember that even if you're behind you still have a nice chance to win etc.


viewer88
Joined: 19.04.2008

with 10 effective bigblinds this is a easy shove, AJs is not the bottem of my range at all tbh.
I shove something in the likes off:
A5s A8o KQs 55+


LgWz
Joined: 26.05.2007

I really have to work on pushing from 50/100 to 100/200 levels, I think 90% of my leaks are in this part of the games...


Can't u just raise 600?


LgWz
Joined: 26.05.2007

I could, but I'd have to call any push because the raise would pot commit me.


Originally posted by mozartiano
Can't u just raise 600?

with only 9bb remaining. open push is the only way to maximize FE.

easy push for me here. id push 25% around in this spot.


Alverine
Joined: 31.01.2009

viewer88, dont you think you are shoving way too loose?

And i think the fact you are the big stack doesnt tight your range, i think it's the other way around, pushing a little wider because your life tournament is not in the play. But i think viewer's range are way too loose imo.


viewer88
Joined: 19.04.2008

It makes sense that you can shove a little bit tighter when you have a big stack.. perhaps I'm way too loose here.

It depends on reads aswell. If I spot 1-2 good regulars (who will call me loose here) I'm tighter ofcourse.


Originally posted by Alverine
viewer88, dont you think you are shoving way too loose?

how is shoving AJs from the high-jack with 4 equal ss players behind him loose?

this is a pretty standard shove for me against any player.


viewer88
Joined: 19.04.2008

Originally posted by viewer88
with 10 effective bigblinds this is a easy shove, AJs is not the bottem of my range at all tbh.
I shove something in the likes off:
A5s A8o KQs 55+

He was talking about this range..


Alverine
Joined: 31.01.2009

Originally posted by viewer88
It makes sense that you can shove a little bit tighter when you have a big stack.. perhaps I'm way too loose here.

It depends on reads aswell. If I spot 1-2 good regulars (who will call me loose here) I'm tighter ofcourse.

Humm, I dont know. If it was a buble situation and we were big stack = more loose shoves. It doesnt make sense to tight up until the bubble aproaches.


viewer88
Joined: 19.04.2008

bump!

chenny what do you think is the optimal shoverange?


Maarten84
Joined: 22.02.2008

Imo slightly tighter then NASH.. reason I push slightly tighter, in my experience people tend to make more -$EV calls when a bigstack pushes into them and they think you are bullying them. If blinds go up next round or the round after I do push NASH.


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

I push a similar range to Nash which includes all the suited aces (they are a must push). However I would cut out hands like KTo from my range.

Nash

This is a matter of playstyle though... you don't HAVE to push this loose! But I would say that as an absolute minimum (= regardless of playstyle) we should be shoving 22+, A8s+, AJo+, KTs+, KQo, QJs.