Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 5958
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Pre Flop: (1.4 SB) Hero is UTG+1 with Q 
A 
1 fold, Hero raises, 2 folds, MP2 calls, 3 folds, BB calls
Flop: (6.4 SB) 4 6 A 
(3 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, MP2 calls, BB folds
Turn: (5.7 BB) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 calls
River: (7.7 BB) 9 
(2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 calls
14/01/09
Hey guys, a good coaching today with almost too many sample hands posted by members, nah just kidding 
Here's 2 of them 'cause WHY NOT!!!
Known players:
[tg]Position:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;BB:35/43/14/1,8/35/-/-/67;UTG1:53/32/0/2,3/47/-/-/67;MP1:04/100/100/7,0/50/-/-/0;BU:35/91/0/0,5/35/-/-/50;[/tg]
0,05/0,1 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q♦, Q♥
UTG folds, UTG1 calls, UTG2 folds, MP1 raises, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, BU calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG1 folds, MP1 caps, Hero calls, BU calls, BB calls.
Preflop play is standardised by the charts so there's no discussion to be had here, we have a very strong hand so we will try to get in as much money as possible.
Flop: (17,40 SB) 3♠, 9♠, 9♦ (4 players)
BB checks, MP1 bets, Hero calls, BU calls, BB calls.
This flop is too drawy and the pot is multiway so we have no choice but to raise, confronting a 3-bet from MP1 we have to cap because of the 2 extra players in the pot who are likely drawing from anything like a flush to overcards (a single A or K most likely) and sometimes a smaller pair. This is because MP1 will have AK more often than a better pair like KK/AA so we will be ahead most of the time. Against a 3-bet from MP1 I can see merit in calling down heads up but the 2 extra players make it so we have to be ahead far less often against MP1 due to the extra "dead" money in the pot
Turn: (10,70 BB) J♥ (4 players)
BB checks, MP1 bets, Hero calls, BU calls, BB calls.
As played if you just call the flop it's closer decision to raise on the turn cause he won't (shouldn't) conti-bet the turn with overcards unimproved unless he's got the flush draw also. I'm gonna say a raise here is good again because the guys behind us are either on stupid single overcard draws that are dominated and "might" call, or flush draws that WILL call. If 3-bet then it's an ugly calldown =( If you put in more action on the flop then betting the turn is mandatory!
River: (14,70 BB) 2♦ (4 players)
BB checks, MP1 bets, Hero calls, BU calls, BB folds.
Blank pretty much, no draws arrive so no more value out of the calling stations, no point raising and if we just called flop & turn then call river. If we had raised flop led turn then we definitely bet this river also!
Final Pot: 17,70 BB
Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows two pairs, queens and nines (Qd Qh)
BU shows two pairs, jacks and nines (Js Kd)
MP1 shows two pairs, tens and nines (Ts Td)
Hero wins with two pairs, queens and nines (Qd Qh)
Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;SB$17,30:151/17/6/1,1/26/67/75/43;Hero$29,65:///////;UTG2$51,55:887/15/13/3,8/32/26/70/74;MP1$22,93:57/35/11/1,0/45/20/-/33;MP2$28,80:1 301/26/12/1,6/45/34/56/50;MP3$44,55:201/29/6/1,2/34/6/50/71;CO$29,00:14/21/21/3,0/25/100/-/100;BU$32,47:789/14/12/3,0/28/40/50/70;[/tg]
0,5/1 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.
Preflop: Hero is BB with J♥, J♦
2 folds, MP2 calls, 4 folds, Hero raises, MP2 calls.
Standard preflop action!
Flop: (4,50 SB) 4♦, A♣, 8♠ (2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 calls.
A high flops are bad for us with pocket pairs for 2 reasons. 1: It scares our opponents, they'll just fold most of there non pair range that would normally call 1 or 2 streets on a raggier board. 2: It's hard to tell if we're behind against an ace cause he'll call the flop with many different hands here. We must continuation bet however to keep the initiative + he'll call with worse pairs/gutshots.
Turn: (3,25 BB) 5♠ (2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 raises, Hero calls.
To get maximum value from the fish it's best to bet/fold the turn here because he will pay off with most pairs + draws. Our opponent has to be pretty LAG for us to consider a calldown.
River: (7,25 BB) K♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks.
I made a mistake in calling the turn against this guy as he checked behind A5 for 2 pair on a flush completing river, this makes me think I'm never ahead after the turn raise.
Final Pot: 7,25 BB
Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows a pair of jacks (Jh Jd)
MP2 shows two pairs, aces and fives (Ah 5h)
MP2 wins with two pairs, aces and fives (Ah 5h)
See you on Sunday!
TerrorBlade
18/01/09
Hey guys, we got off to a bit of a late start but the coaching flowed well once it got started. Here's a hand from the coaching 
0.25/0.50 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.
Preflop: Hero is CO with Q♠, T♥
6 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, BB calls.
Flop: (4.40 SB) K♣, 3♣, J♥ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.
We have a decent hand, an open-ended straight draw on a scary & drawy flop. Our continuation bet will cause a fold in many cases against a single opponent. Typical hands that the villain will call with would be a J/3/draw/pocket pair or even A high some times. The good thing about them holding a draw here is that unless it's an A high draw we have a value bet against them and probably a bet on the turn also which would double as a "Free showdown" bet because we're in position. This means we can check behind on the river and win a pretty decently sized pot with Q high!
Turn: (3.20 BB) J♦ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.
We still have the initiative and we're against a single opponent with a strong draw so we shall bet again. BB will call again with draws and now the jack should raise giving us an easy river fold unimproved.
River: (5.20 BB) Q♣ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.
An interesting card, the flush draw arrives, some straight draws get a queen (like ours). We beat an underpair & A high, we lose to everything else, and I think it's best to avoid a check-raise and just check behind. Against a river donkbet we could find a pretty safe fold given the pot is quite small and it would most likely be the flush/other hands that don't want the possibility of a free showdown.
Final Pot: 5.20 BB
Thanks for reading!
TerrorBlade
Hi guys,
Unfortunately there was no coaching as no replacement could be found me while I was on a boat trip with my gf's family so the coaching was cancelled! I'll definitely see you all on Sunday though so prepare your sample hands for the in-coaching downtimes between hands
26/01/09
Hi again fellas. Although most of the coaching was discussion I have nevertheless found a hand to discuss!
0.25/0.50 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.
Preflop: Hero is CO with A♠, Q♦
5 folds, Hero raises, BU calls, SB calls, BB calls.
Strong hand = raise preflop! But you already knew that because you have your SHCs at hand 24/7.
Flop: (8.00 SB) A♣, K♠, 9♣ (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero raises, BU folds, SB calls, BB calls.
Evaluating our hand here we have Top pair + top kicker, which is good for 3 streets of value. Our plan is to bet-3bet the flop (if raised) then lead turn and river calling down to raises on the big streets. It is important we jam the flop here as there are many draws present and 3 other players in the hand, we aren't going to win the showdown hugely often here but often enough to make it profitable to get in as much money as we can.
Worse hands that pay us off include tons of As, Ks, 9s & a handful of gutshots and flush draws.
Turn: (7.00 BB) K♣ (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero calls, SB calls.
Possibly the worst card in the deck for us, Every K beats us now + the flush draw arrived, still though we will be ahead pretty often if we are checked to again. In this particular case BB donkbets which means strength. We have to go into calldown mode here and basically hope that he's holding an Ace or other pair/weird paired board bluff/picked up single card flush draw.
River: (10.00 BB) 2♣ (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero calls, SB folds.
Interesting card and I believe I misplayed it in this instance. The average player at this limit won't bet such a river without the K/flush or better, and a fold is definitely no mistake here. I would have called any non-club river.
Final Pot: 12.00 BB
See you guys on wednesday!
TerrorBlade
Hey Terrorblade I think I got a hand that tops when you got burnt with A3.
Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/pfr/af/wts/ats/foldbb/w$sd;MP1$1.98:///////;BU$0.96:///////;BB$2.50:///////;Hero$2.19:///////;UTG+1$4.85:///////;SB$3.17:///////;MP2$1.79:///////;UTG+2$2.15:///////;CO$3.38:///////;[/tg]
0.05/0.10 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.
Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A♠, K♦
UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, Hero raises, CO 3-bets, 3 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, Hero caps, CO calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.
Flop: (17.40 SB) 9♥, A♦, Q♠ (4 players)
UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, CO calls, 2 folds.
Turn: (9.70 BB) 6♣ (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.
River: (11.70 BB) Q♥ (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.
Final Pot: 13.70 BB
Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows [ As, Kd ] two pairs, Aces and Queens
CO shows [ 6d, Ts ] two pairs, Queens and Sixes
Hero wins $1.24 USD with two pairs, Aces and Queens.
Originally posted by Calron
Hey Terrorblade I think I got a hand that tops when you got burnt with A3.Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/pfr/af/wts/ats/foldbb/w$sd;MP1$1.98:///////;BU$0.96:///////;BB$2.50:///////;Hero$2.19:///////;UTG+1$4.85:///////;SB$3.17:///////;MP2$1.79:///////;UTG+2$2.15:///////;CO$3.38:///////;[/tg]
0.05/0.10 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A♠, K♦
UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, Hero raises, CO 3-bets, 3 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, Hero caps, CO calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.Flop: (17.40 SB) 9♥, A♦, Q♠ (4 players)
UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, CO calls, 2 folds.Turn: (9.70 BB) 6♣ (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.River: (11.70 BB) Q♥ (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.Final Pot: 13.70 BB
Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows [ As, Kd ] two pairs, Aces and Queens
CO shows [ 6d, Ts ] two pairs, Queens and Sixes
Hero wins $1.24 USD with two pairs, Aces and Queens.
Haha that's pretty classic, 3-bets T6o PF then calls on a board where he's drawing to only backdoor hands!
28/01/08 & 31/01/08
Here's an epic coaching review covering both weeks, also the final "official" coaching review. Prepare for some awesomeness and an at least semi-correct explanation of what situations you can raise for value with your draws!
Below is an epic hand in the perfect situation which occured in my coaching, although our draw didn't arrive we saved ourselves plenty o' $$$ by playing it this way! It's also an introduction to the concept of equity.
0.25/0.50 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 7♠, 6♠
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls, 3 folds, SB calls, BB checks.
For suited connectors you need 1:3 preflop, after 3 limpers this is a suuuuuper mega instacall! Suited connectors are good. They are good because if we dont hit a draw on the flop or 2-pair it is generally easy to let go of the hand and not get caught up in situations where we can't fold but are often paying off a better hand, in other words they're highly "playable".
Flop: (6.00 SB) T♠, A♦, K♠ (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, Hero raises, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.
We have a strong draw on this flop although there are better flush draws possible, the times when noone else is dominating us with 2 better spades we have an easy raise for value. Why?
Equity!
Equity is our share of the pot in %, in other words it's how often, in %, we will win the showdown. If our equity of is greater than our fair share of the pot we should raise. What do I mean by this?
In a heads up game there are 2 players so each player's fair share is 50% of each pot, 3 way each player's fair share is 33%, 4 way 25% etc.
The reason why we raise with our strong made hands, because our equity is greater than our share of the pot thus it makes our raises EV+.
I'm going to use Equilator which calculates how much equity we have in a given situation depending on opponents possible holdings and our cards.
It's hard to tell how often our flush draw will be good against 3 other players so I'm going to assume that noone is ever holding a better flush draw to simplify the example!
Let's say UTG+1 has A8s, UTG+1 has Q9o, and MP1 has K8s. There will be a similar lineup to these hands a lot of the time, so let's see what equilator says.
Board: Ad Ks Ts
Dead:
Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
Player 1: 55.248 % 55.052 % 0.781 % 44.166 % A8s
Player 2: 12.380 % 12.184 % 0.781 % 87.034 % Q9o
Player 3: 8.942 % 8.747 % 0.781 % 90.472 % K8s
Player 4: 23.430 % 23.235 % 0.781 % 75.984 % 7s6s
Interestingly with 76 of spades we have 24% equity on the flop which is slightly less than our fair share (which would be 25%) but if I change our hand to 78 or 89 it goes up to 35%+ because of the specific kickers I gave our opponents, i.e. if we have 8 and 9 of spades they can't possibly be holding better flush draws cause they're A8 Q9 and K8 so the situation is going to vary a lot.
I think generally we're going to have at least our fair share of equity on average against 3 other opponents which pushes us towards a raise purely for value.
Ok, let's review our current position and the options presented to us, we can raise or call.
Argument for Calling:
Some might say if we call there's a higher chance that SB or BB call thus yielding us 1 or sometimes 2 extra SB in the pot, however I don't think this is really the case. An average fish at these limits isn't letting go of top pair or sometimes even a gutshot or K/T because he or she is confronted with 2 small bets to call and is likely to call anyway if they have a hand worthy of calling for 1 SB.
This is a poor option in this situation because even in the best case scenario you only get 2 extra SB into the pot (plus 2 extra players to suck out on you somehow).
Argument for Raising
Our equity favours a raise thus we can raise purely for value.
Also we are in position which means if they call our raise and check the turn to us we can take a free card thus paying 2 SB on the flop to see the river instead of 1 SB on the flop (just calling) then 1 BB on the turn, thus 3 SB in total to see a river, saving a smallbet overall and bloating the pot so we win more when our spade turn/river does arrive!
The 3 players before us will nearly always call, yielding 3 extra SB into the pot from this move and sometimes the other 2 will call the 2 SBs cold giving us major $$ in the event we do hit our flush draw.
Thus this situation speaks for a raise in every respect. I'd call if this was less multiway with fewer players in the pot and we weren't in position.
Turn: (7.00 BB) 3♣ (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks.
Super blank card here, on a spade we will be betting for value but our plan is to check behind on the turn unimproved and see a free river.
River: (7.00 BB) J♦ (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 bets, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls.
Unfortunately no spade comes along but we played it as perfectly as possible. We got in the money while we had the equity edge and got i 0$ while behind, we played dictionary definition perfect poker.
Final Pot: 9.00 BB
In review here are some factors to consider when deciding to raise your flush draw:
-How many players are in the pot, the more the better (especially with the nut flush)
-How is your position? Not that you just have the button but if there was a preflop raiser are there many players between you two, i.e. the best situation is if the PFR is first to act then 4 players call inbetween it's super awesome for you cause if he isn't willing to 3-bet then you get an extra 4-5 SB. Tying in to this is can you take a free card?
An example of a worse position would be the PFR being first to act, then yourself then 2 people which is going to suck a lot more for you because the players after you will be less willing to call 2 SB.
-How strong is your draw? 76s is mid strength on this board, 87 and 98 are a lot stronger as many less combinations of hands have better flush draws possible.
This is pretty much a rehash of the raising draws for value article here but I thought I'd analyse a single hand on the topic just to let you guys know that you can get a lot more value out of these situations than if you play the normal passive line.
Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/pfr/af/wts/ats/foldbb/w$sd;CO$3.35:///////;Hero$4.85:///////;UTG+2$7.45:///////;MP3$3.48:///////;BU$4.77:///////;MP1$4.19:///////;SB$2.70:///////;UTG+1$6.25:///////;BB$4.97:///////;[/tg]
0.10/0.20 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q♥, K♥
UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, Hero raises, 5 folds, UTG+2 calls.
Flop: (5.50 SB) 9♣, 7♥, 9♥ (2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, UTG+2 calls.
Turn: (3.75 BB) 2♦ (2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, UTG+2 calls.
River: (5.75 BB) 9♠ (2 players)
UTG+2 bets, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 7.75 BB
Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows [ Qh, Kh ] three of a kind, Nines
UTG+2 shows [ 6h, 2h ] a full house, Nines full of Twos
UTG+2 wins $1.48 USD with a full house, Nines full of Twos.
0.25/0.50 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.
Preflop: Hero is BU with J♠, A♦
3 folds, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, SB calls, BB 3-bets, MP2 calls, Hero calls, SB calls.
Flop: (12.00 SB) 3♥, 4♠, 5♣ (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks.
Turn: (6.00 BB) 4♥ (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets, MP2 folds, Hero calls, SB folds.
River: (8.00 BB) 6♥ (2 players)
BB bets, Hero folds.
Final Pot: 9.00 BB
Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$19,95:///////;BB$4,90:14/29/0/0,0/50/0/-/50;MP2$15,00:01/100/0/-/100/-/-/0;[/tg]
0,25/0,5 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.
Preflop: Hero is SB with A♠, 9♥. MP2 posts a blind of $0,25.
MP2 checks, 3 folds, Hero calls, BB checks.
Flop: (3,00 SB) 3♥, 7♥, 4♠ (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP2 checks.
Turn: (1,50 BB) A♥ (3 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, MP2 raises, Hero calls.
River: (5,50 BB) 4♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 7,50 BB
Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows two pairs, aces and fours (As 9h)
MP2 shows a pair of fours (6d 2h)
Hero wins with two pairs, aces and fours (As 9h)
I apologise for showing up late to the coaching guys and I'm extremely sorry to those who missed out because we had an awesome coaching. I closed the tables 30 minutes in and ran an extra 30 minutes over time because the discussion was so good!
Remember next time guys to bring your complicated theory/unimproved AK questions as well as any hands you want personally evaluated and hopefully we can repeat this!
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU...
Sorry guys, I remember it being 1 hour before the coaching saying "okay [left my alarm at gfs], I'm gonna look at the clock every 15 minutes so I can't miss it."
Then I started running too good and lost track of the time 
Hey guys, didn't make coaching today because daylight savings changed in your country, but not mine, and the coaching times thusly got moved back an hour without my knowledge.
ZZZZZZZZZZz
Wont be there for the next 2 weeks tho ^^ 
