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Muscledude
Joined: 25.04.2024

I used to play full ring limit but there no more of those games around anymore, so i am adjusting to playing 6 max limit. I have got 5434 hands in after 2 weeks of play at a win rate of 1.41 bb/100 playing 2c/4c fixed limit 6 max.
How many hands should i be aiming for before i know for sure that i am a winning player before moving up. I will report back after 10k hands played.


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Khiiniau
Joined: 21.08.2008

As old FL veteran I will follow this. I played Full Ring FL 10 seats multitabling maximum amount of tables until all pokerrooms changed they RB rules to be worse for TAG-type of players. I played some time FL 6-max tables but didn't enjoy it so I moved to PLO.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Hi Muscledude,
Welcome to PokerStrategy.com :welcome:

I only play FL as part of HORSE and 8-Game, so I can't say from experience. 10K hands is good, 100K is better.

Always keep variance in mind...
https://www.primedope.com/poker-variance-calculator/

All the best,
VS


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I think it's always hard to tell itf you are a winning player on a limit on the long run, because you need a huge sample to have to exclude variance.
I would always move up when I have enough buy-inns to move up the limit. Most of the time 30 buy-inns of the new limit is enough I think to take a shot and than you move down if you have 20 buy-inns left.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Muscledude
Joined: 25.04.2024

Well i have had a few replies so i will try and address them in turn.
Khiiniau i like you did not enjoy 6 max as i was working and could not devote as much time to the game that i wanted but i am probably going to be retired and so can re-focus.
VorpalF2F I agree 100k hands is better and will have that in by year end.
SDK1987 I do not concur with your buy in idea i always thought fixed limit was about Bankroll and the number of Big Bets you have as part of any bankroll and with 6 max you need a bigger bankroll than full ring because of variance i was thinking 1250 BB for any limit as a bankroll for 6 max.
I do have a working idea for moving up though and will share later.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I'm not to familiar with bankroll management in FL games, but 1250 big bets seems big enough for sure :f_thumbsup:


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Muscledude
Joined: 25.04.2024

Well folks just taking some timeout from the poker for most of one day as i hit a bad day yesterday with maniacs and bad variance and probably some bad play mixed in. I am making some progress though i have now played 8328 hands and my win rate is 0.91BB/100 i want to aim for a better win rate so now its to do some graft on the strategy here i like the quiz's and articles they are very good.
I still. plan on reporting progress at 10,000 hands played and every 5,000 after that until i have 100k hands in at this level. My long term plan is to make enough at the tables plus loyalty to get my deposit back and have 1250BB for 5c/10c so i am then freerolling.
I should report back by Tuesday at latest.


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Muscledude
Joined: 25.04.2024

Well i have now played 10,007 hands at a win rate of 0.82BB/100. I am going to do the quizzes again and look at my poker tracker for weaknesses any help in this area is most welcome. I have a number of tickets for sng's so i will use those and see if they earn me anything. I am on track to play 100k hands by end of year hopefully more. I will now report back after 15k hands played.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Maybe you can start a blog about you're FLHE adventure.


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Muscledude
Joined: 25.04.2024

I have never done a blog before but i can have a go at it i guess


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Avataren
Joined: 28.04.2010

id say 10k if you cant be profitable at 2c/4c after that then you are not a winning player. :) I am rooting for you. its so rare to see FL games nowadays, I used to be the 5th biggest winner at my stake 10 years ago :P I miss those times. FL is always gonna be my first love in poker.


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Muscledude
Joined: 25.04.2024

Hi, Avataren
10k used to be the number I used to use when I was working to move up the limits quickly, but as I am not working now and have no income I have plenty of time, although I do have assets to survive on until I get my state pension in 4 yrs time.
I put £100 deposit on stars and have cashed £75 of that back off when I have made more I will withdraw the other £25 and that when I have made $100 from whatever means I will move up to 5c/10c and be freerolling.
Not sure what you think of this idea but not many players playing need the yanks back.


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taavi1337
Joined: 29.05.2009

It's so interesting, looks like after Black Friday, PokerStars is the only cardroom that offers FLHE for Europeans? Am I correct?


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Muscledude
Joined: 25.04.2024

I have no idea Taavi1337 but it would be nice to know if other poker rooms do FLHE.


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taavi1337
Joined: 29.05.2009

I haven't found a single legally supported one other than PokerStars for FLHE cashgames, 888 used to offer it years ago but I don't go there anymore cause our government bans that site. When I was younger, I simply changed the DNS of my computer and bypassed the government, but nowadays I wish to be more social and understandable.


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