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YadirTR
Joined: 20.07.2024

Is it normal to cold call 3bet in BU (villian) vs EP (Hero)?

€0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players

BTN: 103 BB
SB: 108.5 BB
BB: 100 BB
Hero (UTG): 103.5 BB
CO: 129 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Qh Qs
Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, fold

Flop : (7.5 BB, 2 players) 5d 4d 3h
Hero bets 5.5 BB, BTN raises to 15 BB, Hero calls 9.5 BB

Turn : (37.5 BB, 2 players) Th
Hero bets 9 BB, BTN raises to 27 BB, Hero raises to 85.5 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 58 BB and is all-in

River : (207.5 BB, 2 players) 3d

BTN shows 7s 6s (Straight, Seven High)
(Pre 22%, Flop 97%, Turn 100%)

Hero shows Qh Qs (Two Pair, Queens and Threes)
(Pre 79%, Flop 3%, Turn 0%)

BTN wins 195 BB


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I guess everyone missed this hand so far.

Anyway pre-flop and flop seems pretty standard, but not sure why you are leading the turn with a over pair with in mind villain could have 2 pair+ on the flop. I would check/call most of the time on the turn and re-evaluate the river. You don't want to keep villains bluffs in villains range.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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rafds
Joined: 17.06.2011

Almost 100% with SDK on this... I would even tend to XF turn if his size is on the larger side.

As played on turn I would fold his 2nd re-raise, even if you think he is semi-bluffing with a FD.
9/10 when he raises 2 times in a row on NL2 he just has it unless you have a read that he's a maniac.
His calling range PF is speculative hands and some pairs. Him raising this massively wetB that hits his range a lot more than yours already is the first flag.

My biggest adjustment with overpairs QQ+ happens post flop when OOP, you don't want to blow up the pot, especially on these boardstructures...


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Talisker74
Joined: 17.08.2009

Try to hide the results of the hand, otherwise you may got somehints which are based on the result.

I guess you have to fold vs. the shove on the river.
It will be for value only. Except you have notes that villain does that as a bluff (very rarly on nl2.)

On that limit most players play straight forward, so you have to learn to overfold in some situation even with your overpairs.

And try to share your thoughts to the hand as deep as possible, that is the best way you can learn.
Share your thoughts with us and your information about villain you have.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Originally posted by Talisker74
Try to hide the results of the hand, otherwise you may got somehints which are based on the result.

I guess you have to fold vs. the shove on the river.
It will be for value only. Except you have notes that villain does that as a bluff (very rarly on nl2.)

On that limit most players play straight forward, so you have to learn to overfold in some situation even with your overpairs.

And try to share your thoughts to the hand as deep as possible, that is the best way you can learn.
Share your thoughts with us and your information about villain you have.

Villain 3bet shoves on the turn, but fair enough. I wouldn't called the shove on turn ether.


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